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Encapsulated Coins
Virgil H:
These are some interesting comments. The photos on the auction site are all NGC photos, I believe. At least two of the three are. I also think that NGC may photograph the coins before encapsulating as a record for the person using their services. So, I just assumed all three were NGC photos. One is in the encapsulation and one is the NGC tag. The other is the free coin and larger image. As for the ANS, my experience is very good with them. I watch a lot of their Long Table presentations and have taken two of their Lyceum courses, all of which I have been impressed with. I am not a very experienced collector, so my impression may be naive, but I like them and my rare contacts with them have been good. I do not have that American Journal of Numismatics volume you mention. Sounds like an interesting article. To PMah, I was just surprised that all the coins I looked at in this auction were encapsulated, hence my post. I didn't expect that from ANS if they indeed had them encapsulated. There is an expense in doing that, so part of my question was will this make the prices realized that much higher. It makes no impact on me, for example, the provenance is just fine without it. Plus, as I said, if I get one of these, my hammer will come out as soon as I get it. LOL. And, I assumed that ANS has good folks that would not need a service like NGC.
Regards,
Virgil
Meepzorp:
Hi PMah,
Thank you for the explanation. That may explain what happened to me 20 years ago.
Meepzorp
Meepzorp:
Hi folks,
I understand why everyone is confused and/or upset about this slabbing incident. Personally, I also am opposed to slabbing ancient coins. It does nothing for me.
Most ancient coin collectors who are "purists" (and not investors/speculators) are repulsed by slabbed ancient coins. And the ANS is supposedly one of the leading organizations protecting and guarding that intellectual/academic aspect of ancients coin collecting. That is why this slabbing incident is so bewildering. It is as if they went against one of their own basic principles.
And the fact that the encapsulation company doesn't guarantee authenticity makes slabbing all the more useless and wasteful in my mind.
Meepzorp
Altamura:
At first: There can be no doubt about the high scientific and organizational level of the ANS. (And to add: I'm a member too :).)
--- Quote from: PMah on August 31, 2021, 09:37:25 pm ---... ANS has nothing to do with grading coins; ...
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By putting their logo on the encapsulation tags they have now :-\. This is a statement, perhaps the interpretation is not so easy.
--- Quote from: PMah on August 31, 2021, 09:37:25 pm ---... but a non-profit institution does have an obligation to try to maximize value when deaccessioning objects, and/or that may have been a condition of the bequest ...
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Perhaps that's the point. As a nongovernmental institution they have to raise the money they need by themselves, and I think they are quite good in this. But by doing this you often have to decide what's appropriate and what not for not damaging your reputation and not loosing your scientific autonomy. The discussion here shows that they perhaps went a bit too far in this case :-\.
--- Quote from: PMah on August 31, 2021, 09:37:25 pm ---... The best way to assess ANS is .... by joining as a member. ...
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I only can recommend that, it's worth it! :)
Regards
Altamura
Kevin D:
--- Quote from: Meepzorp on September 01, 2021, 01:10:03 am ---Hi folks,
...Personally, I also am opposed to slabbing ancient coins. It does nothing for me.
Most ancient coin collectors who are "purists" (and not investors/speculators) are repulsed by slabbed ancient coins....
Meepzorp
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Thus far, I've removed my slabbed ancients from their NGC holder. However, it is just the holder that I dislike, not NGC's expert opinion of the coin. I value the opinion of the authenticators / graders at NGC. But I also know that as the owner of my coins, I will spend more time studying them than will NGC or the dealer I buy from, and I cannot see and examine the coins to my satisfaction unless I remove them from the slab.
I think there is a good chance that in the future, regarding ancients, there will be an improvement in the 'holders' used by third-party 'graders'. For now, I turn my NGC slabs into 'photo certificates'.
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