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Research regarding "Barbarous Radiates" (poor fabric)

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Trajan07:
I need your help for my research regarding poor fabric Roman coinage.

Studying, listing, and even naming this coinage keeps on being an opportunity to formulate hypotheses and sharing.

I wish to extend the work initiated by Philip V. HILL in his article "Barbarous Radiates" Imitations of Third-Century Roman Coins, published in Numismatic Notes and Monographs no.112, 1949.

My main objective is to illustrate the classification of this coinage by types of reverse as he suggested. I want to create an open access iconographic corpus (PDF files) for future research and hypotheses.

I also have two secondary goals:


* do an analysis of the iconographic corpus according to the stylistic approach (on this topic I recommend the wonderful article written by Frédéric WEBER on imitations (http://www.fredericweber.com/articles/imitations_radiees.htm), with an illustration of the three types of stylistic groups), studying coinage such as the ones that show different styles on their obverse and reverse,
*
* do an analysis of the iconographic corpus using the metrological approach (I here recommend the extensive work of Jean-Marc DOYEN, particularly on the definition of classes by weight and size, table 147, page 283: Les imitations radiées, in : Economie, monnaie et société à Reims sous l'Empire romain. Recherches sur la circulation monétaire en Gaule septentrionale intérieure, Reims, 2007, pp. 282-304 : https://www.academia.edu/29915094/Les_imitations_radi%C3%A9es_in_Economie_monnaie_et_soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_%C3%A0_Reims_sous_lEmpire_romain_Recherches_sur_la_circulation_mon%C3%A9taire_en_Gaule_septentrionale_int%C3%A9rieure_Reims_2007_p_282_304) to study the items that do not fit the classification mentioned above
*
As you can guess, I need everybody's help in this undertaking. If you happen to have poor fabric in your collections, you may send me pictures of both obverse and reverse along with the weight and diameter (if known) at the following address: [b]imitations.radiees@gmail.com[/b]

All submissions will be of great help, and I thank you in advance for taking the time to send me your "treasures"!

"Paths are made by walking" (Antonio MACHADO) - I may need quite a few pairs of shoes :)

Trajan07:

--- Quote from: Trajan07 on November 13, 2020, 06:28:10 am ---I need your help for my research regarding poor fabric Roman coinage.

Studying, listing, and even naming this coinage keeps on being an opportunity to formulate hypotheses and sharing.

I wish to extend the work initiated by Philip V. HILL in his article "Barbarous Radiates" Imitations of Third-Century Roman Coins, published in Numismatic Notes and Monographs no.112, 1949.

My main objective is to illustrate the classification of this coinage by types of reverse as he suggested. I want to create an open access iconographic corpus (PDF files) for future research and hypotheses.

I also have two secondary goals:


*   - do an analysis of the iconographic corpus according to the stylistic approach (on this topic I recommend the wonderful article written by Frédéric WEBER on imitations (http://www.fredericweber.com/articles/imitations_radiees.htm), with an illustration of the three types of stylistic groups), studying coinage such as the ones that show different styles on their obverse and reverse,
*

*   - do an analysis of the iconographic corpus using the metrological approach (I here recommend the extensive work of Jean-Marc DOYEN, particularly on the definition of classes by weight and size, table 147, page 283: Les imitations radiées, in : Economie, monnaie et société à Reims sous l'Empire romain. Recherches sur la circulation monétaire en Gaule septentrionale intérieure, Reims, 2007, pp. 282-304 : https://www.academia.edu/29915094/Les_imitations_radi%C3%A9es_in_Economie_monnaie_et_soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_%C3%A0_Reims_sous_lEmpire_romain_Recherches_sur_la_circulation_mon%C3%A9taire_en_Gaule_septentrionale_int%C3%A9rieure_Reims_2007_p_282_304) to study the items that do not fit the classification mentioned above
*
As you can guess, I need everybody's help in this undertaking. If you happen to have poor fabric in your collections, you may send me pictures of both obverse and reverse along with the weight and diameter (if known) at the following address: [b]imitations.radiees@gmail.com[/b]

All submissions will be of great help, and I thank you in advance for taking the time to send me your "treasures"!

"Paths are made by walking" (Antonio MACHADO) - I may need quite a few pairs of shoes :)

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*Alex:
Hi and welcome to FORVM,

I have three "barbarous radiates" in my collection which I hope are of interest to you.
The links to them are listed below.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-165903

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-165901

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-165612


Alex

otlichnik:
I would be happy to help but I would like to know what you mean by "poor fabric"?

Do you mean any coin that we believe is a barbarous radiate or only ones with certain characteristics?  And if so what?

Under a certain diameter?  Non-circular?  Unofficial design?

SC

Trajan07:
Good evening to both of you.

Thank you Alex for the contribution, I'll be sure to come back to you if needed but the description of your coins seems very complete  ;) +++

otlichnik, they are coins of necessity, the English call them "poor fabric", Philip V. HILL speaks of "Barbarous Radiates", it is the same thing. Here is the link to my own collection (https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collection-items/2915/monnaie-antique-av-jc-ap-romaine-imitations-radiees) so you can see what we are talking about.I hope I have answered your questions and see your coins join the corpus. :)

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