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Seals and Tesserae / Re: Rectangular Lead Initial Seals from Caesarea Maritima
« Last post by v-drome on Yesterday at 07:57:17 pm »
BCC LSR16
Rectangular Lead Seal
Roman 1st-3rd Century CE
Obv: M??   Rev:?
Truncated incuse rectangular stamp with
Nearly illegible inscription on one side,
possibly M_M, with something similar on
the flatter underside.
1.55 x 0.5 x 0.45cm 2.52gm. Axis:0
Surface find Caesarea Maritima, 1974
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Roman Provincial Coins / Re: Parium (Parion) why symbol of capricorn?
« Last post by Timestheus on Yesterday at 07:03:54 pm »
Hi. Since the capricorn appears on different coins, like Julia Paula, Caracalla, Severus Alexander and also many others, I don't think they were all born in the same zodiac sign.

But with Augustus you give me an idea. But this is now pure speculation from me.

The Capricorn of Augustus is identical with the representations from Parium.

Augustus has founded the Colonia Parium! Maybe the city has adopted the sign of Augustus as a mascot and memory of the founder?
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Roman Coins / Re: Are these two coins from the same reverse die?
« Last post by Ron C2 on Yesterday at 06:56:01 pm »
Give. The large difference of years between the dies, I can't see how E is not a fake, more so because it shares dies with known fakes. Just my $.02 worth.
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Roman Provincial Coins / Re: Parium (Parion) why symbol of capricorn?
« Last post by Meepzorp on Yesterday at 06:27:35 pm »
Hi Tim,

I have the Augustus version of that type (first coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/rp_mysia_par.htm

Many coins of Augustus have a capricorn on the reverse because that was his solar/lunar birth sign. I don't know if a capricorn is a symbol of that city, or simply the solar/lunar birth sign of several emperors and empresses.

Meepzorp
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Roman Provincial Coins / Parium (Parion) why symbol of capricorn?
« Last post by Timestheus on Yesterday at 06:18:05 pm »
Hello, I bought this province bronze of Iulia Paula from Parium. Typically, on the back is the capricorn with cornucopia and globe. Now I tried a little research. But I have not found more than that the capricorn is a symbol of the city.

Does anyone know anything more specific about what the ibex, cornucopia and globe stand for? Especially the capricorn for Parium. Does anyone have more literature tips for me? The little animal appears quite often on the backs.

Thanks a lot for your help.
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Thank you, I kind of expected that. I use not use a "good" smartphone, have never paid more than $45 for a phone and never intend to and I will never use the camera on one. I do have an old digital camera with a macro lens attachment and getting an image in focus and with decent lighting is a huge challenge. The actual camera is what I consider a good one with resolution good enough for fine art prints and I do professional shooting with it. I just suck at the macro part with the screw on attachment. I do not have the budget for an actual macro lens.

Regards,
Virgil
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Roman Coins / Re: Constantinvs Avg Thessalonica solidus fakes
« Last post by Lech Stępniewski on Yesterday at 12:22:53 pm »
I generally agree. F - 100% fake, C - 95% fake, D - 75% fake, E - 50%/50% but probably tooled fake (of course take these numbers cum grano salis).
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Roman Coins / Constantinvs Avg Thessalonica solidus fakes
« Last post by Heliodromus on Yesterday at 11:39:20 am »
I'm not sure we're going to get any more progress on this at the moment, so thought I'd leave this here as a summary of the discussion so far.

Coins F and C are obviously slam-dunk take-it-to-the-bank transfer die fakes. To me, D is also highly suspect due to similarity to E, and maybe E too.

The links to F show the dies used, not necessarily the specific host coins from which the transfer dies were created.

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L’aurelianus repris ci-dessous n’est répertorié ni dans le corpus établi par P. Bastien, ni dans aucun de ses deux suppléments. Il n’est néanmoins pas inédit car un autre exemplaire a déjà été décrit et illustré lors d’une vente publique. Les deux exemplaires sont issus du même coin d’avers.

Il a été frappé dans la deuxième officine de l’atelier de Lyon (marquée B). Son poids est de 3,5 g. et les axes des coins sont alignés (12 h).
 
A/. IMP C NVMERIANVS AVG   Buste radié, drapé, cuirassé, vu de dos, vers la droite.
R/.  PAX  AVGG  B / - // -  Paix debout vers la gauche.

Cet aurelianus présente donc un avers hybride comportant un buste attribué initialement à Numérien César puis à Numérien Auguste lors de la 1ére phase de la 6éme émission couplé à une légende d’avers raccourcie présente, elle, à partir de la deuxième phase de cette émission. Il s’agit donc, alors que les modifications du buste et de la légende ont été concomitantes, de l’utilisation prolongée d’un type de portrait dépassé mais déjà gravé et anépigraphe et alors doté de la nouvelle légende appropriée.

Il peut donc être daté de la transition entre ces deux phases de la 6e émission, soit au début de l’été 283. Celle-ci est en effet intervenue après qu’environ un quart du total des revers  PAX AVGG  de l’officine B ait été émis pour Numérien Auguste.

De tels hybrides ne sont pas répertoriés à ce jour pour la troisième officine marquée C et utilisant le revers MARS VICTOR; ni ne le sont des erreurs de gravure couplant le nouveau buste cuirassé de Numérien avec la légende d’avers longue initiale. Probablement le signe d’un changement de légende et de portrait bien préparé et indépendant de tout événement dynastique ou institutionnel inattendu, et peut-être aussi le résultat de la présence de Carin et de son entourage dans la zone.

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Other Metal Antiquities / Re: Bronze item
« Last post by nikopolis1 on Yesterday at 09:20:10 am »
Thanks +++ +++
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