Historia numorum: Italy

[Pawel K]

Does anyone have Historia Numorum: Italy by N.K. Rutter? Pdf or paper.

The book gets weird prices on Amazon or Ebay when it is available (but it isn't:))

[JBF]

Yes, I have it.  I don't know what you mean by weird prices.  I don't have a camera, if you want a citation I can look it up.

[Enodia]

Yes, Amazon prices can be unrealistic at times.
If you look on Wildwinds you might be able to find a reference you can then cross check. HN Italy is a fairly generic reference though, much like the new HGC series. There are many more specific catalogs you might want to check, depending on the coin.

~ Peter

[Pawel K]

Yes, I have it.  I don't know what you mean by weird prices.  I don't have a camera, if you want a citation I can look it up.

Weird price Is 1300$ for the book.

[Carausius]

Maybe Forum has a copy.  If not, any of the specialist numismatic booksellers might have it.  I'd certainly go to one of them before Amazon!

[JBF]

You might look at specialty numismatic booksellers.
Bibliographical information is thus:

Historia Numorum, Italy
Principle Editor N.K. Rutter
The British Museum Press
2001 The Trustees of the British Museum
ISBN 0 7141 1801 X

not to be confused with earlier Historia Numorum.
I seem to remember a price tag of US$ 90.
$1300 is fishing.

[Pawel K]

I think i was looking everywhere in Europe and I didn't found any copy.

Nevermind, I'll use other books

[Anaximander]

Availability of that work, Historia Numorum Italy, is spotty.  I paid US$100, including postage and taxes, in Dec. 2017. I found it at a U.S. bookstore using one of the bookstore aggregators, Alibris or Abe Books.

[Brennos]

It is a book very often offered at auctions.
Hammer price arround 100€

[PtolemAE]

Yes, I have it.  I don't know what you mean by weird prices.  I don't have a camera, if you want a citation I can look it up.

Weird price Is 1300$ for the book.

Sometimes sellers temporarily put high prices as placeholders when an item is not available so no one tries to purchase but they can keep the listing 'live' until one turns up and then just reset the price to normal.  Likely the seller with the $1300 price is not anticipating any buyers. But... you never know

PtolemAE

[Pawel K]

Finally i've bought it. For 70GPB 

[Anaximander]

Congrats, Pawel.  Patience rewarded.  Have a quick look at the discussion here.  HNI goes online!

[Pawel K]

Yes, i've seen it before. Great work!

[Petros]

I'll restart the thread. Has HN Italy appeared anywhere in an online/PDF version?

[Anaximander]

As mentioned before, there is the HNonline website covering Caria: http://hno.huma-num.fr/.
HN3 is a work-in-progress for coins of Sicily. https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/classics/research/dept_projects/historia_numorum/

As for the book? Good question, Petros. HN Italy was published in 2001, so here we are, over 20 years later. Perhaps it has gone off copyright. Someone may have scanned and posted that work. I've not seen it, but I've not looked for it, since I bought the hardcopy seven years ago.  Copies do show up for sale, so get yourself a copy if you can.

[Petros]

Thanks for the response, Anaximander. I was hoping someone had shared a scan of the book; I searched on gallica.bnf.fr, there are many volumes there, but to no avail. Oh well, nothing to be done, I'll keep an eye out for a paper version.

[Molinari]

It isn’t nearly old enough to be public domain.  Books in the 30s are starting to open up.  These come up regularly enough, however.  In the meantime if you need pics of the original casts, “hit me up” as the saying goes!

[Petros]

You're right, the book isn't that old.

If you can, please provide a photo of coin number 2075. I'm interested in the Stater from Kroton, the variant with the full inscription, ϘPO - TON.

[Anaximander]

Here's the photo from HN Italy 2075.

The book is not a corpus, an exposition of any/all coins of the type, but more of a handbook. Not all coins are illustrated, and while 2075 appears on a plate, it does not have the full ethnic you are looking for.

Try the SNG ANS vol. 3 Bruttium-Sicily I, plates 7-13. HN Italy 2075 cites SNG ANS 3 #227-243 as examples.
 

[Petros]

Thanks for sending the photo. I also found HN Italy online version, here's the link: https://archive.org/details/historianumorumi0000unse/page/n5/mode/2up

As for the variant I'm looking for, HN Italy mentions on page 167 that there are two versions: ϘPO and ϘPOTON, but they haven't included a photo of the latter.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to "SNG ANS" either. It's likely listed under number 237.

[Anaximander]

In the continuing quest for that incuse tripod stater from 'Croton,' here's the plate coin for SNG ANS 3 #27 (and a handful of others). 
How does this look?  Have you posted your coin to a gallery?

You can peruse the ANS collection using MANTIS (like dentistry, it's not fun). Must say, some of these coins are stupendous!

[Petros]

Thanks Anaximander for sending the photos. Unfortunately, my coins are not yet in the FAC gallery. It seems that my Stater was struck from the same dies as specimen 237. This is my first coin from Bruttium, and I must admit that it's quite impressive in person. I'm very pleased with it. Here's my coin:

[Petros]

When it comes to "MANTIS," they don't provide access to all the photos.