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Numismatic and History Discussion Forums => Medieval, Islamic and Crusader Coins Discussion Forum => Topic started by: epmunt on February 21, 2007, 12:08:24 pm

Title: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: epmunt on February 21, 2007, 12:08:24 pm

Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: SC on February 21, 2007, 01:05:02 pm

I am no expert but the top image shows an Ottoman tagma or calligraphic signature so it must be Ottoman.

I will leave it to others to fill in the details.

Shawn

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: Istinpolin on February 21, 2007, 02:33:18 pm

Hi

Ottoman AR Para Qstantaniyye mint, I am not too sure of the date but it may be 1223AH which makes it of the time of Mahmud II and the regnal year is 9. Check the date for me in hand. Obverse bottom if you see 2 symbols that looks the same and the last one somewhat similar. "223".

Dear Shawn

Its an Ottoman Tugra.

Best wishes,
burak

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: maxthrax on February 21, 2007, 02:47:55 pm

Hi,

It's late 18-th or 19-th century AR ottoman coin, but the year is not clear, so we may get closer,
if the weight is known, there are many similar looking ottoman coins of the period.
It looks a bit like a billon too..

Geta

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: Istinpolin on February 21, 2007, 02:54:29 pm

The date maybe as well 1187AH which is Abdülhamid I

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: maxthrax on February 21, 2007, 03:07:55 pm

Yes, most likely. What nominal ? gumush grosh, gumush onlik?...
Hard to say with no weight present...
Could it also be a Selim III coin?

Geta

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: Istinpolin on February 21, 2007, 03:31:28 pm

I already said it. it is certainly an AR Para

There is no such thing as gümüsh grosh. You mean AR Kurush. But its not.

Best wishes,
Burak

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: epmunt on February 21, 2007, 07:09:10 pm

Thanks Guys, I forgot to post the size:

Size:15 mm  Weight: 0.5 grams
 

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: epmunt on February 21, 2007, 07:12:05 pm

How about is ? what knid of language on it?
weight: 1.8 grams.  Size: 11x10 mm

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: lv88 on February 21, 2007, 08:02:42 pm

Looks like a Mamluk fractional dirhem.

Title: Re: An Islamic silver I need ID help on
Post by: SC on February 23, 2007, 09:28:46 am

Burak,

Yes, tugra, not tagma.  Thanks for the correction.

Shows the memory gets rusty, but I was close for a non-Turkish speaker, eh?

;)

Shawn