Author Topic: NFS 'multinationalbusiness' fakes (Read 2225 times)

mihali84 · « **on:** March 09, 2011, 05:16:34 pm »

Recently sold as authentic, looks to be a modern cast. Listed as weighing 18g.

areich · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:18:08 pm »

I'm not so sure if it's cast but the style is modern to my eyes.

mihali84 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:20:11 pm »

Here's another from the same seller, "Lysimachos Tetradrachm" also listed at 18g.

mihali84 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:21:44 pm »

Quote from: areich on March 09, 2011, 05:18:08 pm

I'm not so sure if it's cast but the style is modern to my eyes.

I agree the style looks very modern, how do you think they were made? Lost wax process perhaps?

petier · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:23:05 pm »

slokind · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2011, 09:45:41 pm »

That swan's tail belongs in the hilarity scrapbook. You'd think they couldn't be so wrong, but if you saw what I sometimes received (on a test) for "Draw the cross-section of the nave of a Gothic cathedral", you'd believe anything. Pat L.

mihali84 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2011, 07:45:37 pm »

Almost forgot about this one, described as "Ancient Greek Gold Silver Coins of Kings Hercules Eagle"

Joe Sermarini · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2011, 11:29:59 am »

Fake coin reports please.

commodus · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2011, 03:59:18 pm »

The obv and rev in the last photo don't seem to go together. The rev is of a drachm of the Epirote republic, the obv of which should depict Zeus Dodonaes, but this obv looks like Alexander in the guise of Herakles. I don't think this is a fake muling of two types, either, as the backgrounds are different as well, as is the focus -- as though these are two coins photographed at two different times, which I think is the case. No question about them being fake, I just think these are the obv and rev or two different fakes, rather than one.

I've made reports on the other two.

Joe Sermarini · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:31:12 pm »

Thanks.

mihali84 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:39:33 pm »

Thank you commodus for filing the fake reports, i could of sworn i had already done so. The coin you speak of could very well be of two different fakes, and that, along with the other two, are back up for sale on eBay right now by the same seller with a new name.

commodus · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:41:39 pm »

I looked and did not find reports, but I'll double check lest duplicates be made. If so, I'll remove the new ones, if not I'll leave them.

[edit: I just checked again and the ones I filed today are the only reports on these particular coins.]

Snegovik · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2011, 09:59:33 pm »

Quote from: commodus on May 11, 2011, 03:59:18 pm

The obv and rev in the last photo don't seem to go together. The rev is of a drachm of the Epirote republic, the obv of which should depict Zeus Dodonaes, but this obv looks like Alexander in the guise of Herakles. I don't think this is a fake muling of two types, either, as the backgrounds are different as well, as is the focus -- as though these are two coins photographed at two different times, which I think is the case. No question about them being fake, I just think these are the obv and rev or two different fakes, rather than one.

I've made reports on the other two.

Nevertheless they are taken from the description of the same coin. Nomination?

mihali84 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2011, 10:18:16 pm »

I have contacted this seller in the past about the authenticity of his coins, and his response was that if the buyer doesn't like the coin he/she can return it, but until then he did not care that they were fakes, which he was well aware of.

I vote to nominate, his newest eBay handle is "multinationalbusiness".

commodus · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2011, 11:51:31 pm »

Quote from: Snegovik on May 11, 2011, 09:59:33 pm

Quote from: commodus on May 11, 2011, 03:59:18 pm
The obv and rev in the last photo don't seem to go together. The rev is of a drachm of the Epirote republic, the obv of which should depict Zeus Dodonaes, but this obv looks like Alexander in the guise of Herakles. I don't think this is a fake muling of two types, either, as the backgrounds are different as well, as is the focus -- as though these are two coins photographed at two different times, which I think is the case. No question about them being fake, I just think these are the obv and rev or two different fakes, rather than one.

I've made reports on the other two.

Nevertheless they are taken from the description of the same coin. Nomination?

The funny thing is that the description really matches neither coin. I don't know which he is selling, or if he has a fantasy mule. Whatever he has pictured, though, is/are fake and the description is incorrect as well!

Also, I agree with those who vote to nominate him; he knows what he's doing, that much seems clear.

mihali84 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2011, 10:15:42 pm »

This fake seller 'multinationalbusiness', strikes again with another sad looking modern cast fake.

This time it's an 'Ainos Thrace Silver Tetradrachm', weight 16.2g, 23mm.

I could not find the seller in the NFSL so i would like to nominate him again.

mihali84 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2011, 10:57:14 pm »

Fake report filed.

mihali84 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:39:54 pm »

Two more for our viewing pleasure, as ugly as ever, a modern cast fake of an Athenian Owl Tetradrachm, and an ATG Tetradrachm.

The Owl weighs 14g, 22mm. The ATG tet is listed as 16.5g, 25mm.

The seller has been contacted and is aware the coins are modern fakes, but chooses not to change or delete the listings, highly fraudulent seller.

I will file the reports shortly.

Here is a link to the sellers page if anyone else wants to 'report' the fakes to eBay: http://shop.ebay.com/multinationalbusiness/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

And here is the link to the eBay 'report' area for coins:
http://tinyurl.com/62vpagf

mihali84 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:15:04 pm »

*UPDATE*

Ebay has removed all of the above listings, just in time as the fake Athena Tetradrachm had reached over $300. Not to mention all of the sellers auctions for these coins were private, so no chance of contacting any of the buyers.

mihali84 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2011, 07:08:12 pm »

This seller is up to his old tricks again, this time, sadly enough, he was successful.

Selling this horrible modern fake of an Athenian Tetradrachm for lets say over 600 times what it was worth.

I have filed a report with eBay but don't expect anything to come from it because the coin is already sold.

I wanted to bump this thread so we can all keep an eye out for this guys tricks.

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Author Topic: NFS 'multinationalbusiness' fakes (Read 2225 times)

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