Classical Numismatics Discussion
  Welcome Guest. Please login or register. All Items Purchased From Forum Ancient Coins Are Guaranteed Authentic For Eternity!!! Explore Our Website And Find Joy In The History, Numismatics, Art, Mythology, And Geography Of Coins!!! Expert Authentication - Accurate Descriptions - Reasonable Prices - Coins From Under $10 To Museum Quality Rarities Welcome Guest. Please login or register. Internet challenged? We Are Happy To Take Your Order Over The Phone 252-646-1958 Explore Our Website And Find Joy In The History, Numismatics, Art, Mythology, And Geography Of Coins!!! Support Our Efforts To Serve The Classical Numismatics Community - Shop At Forum Ancient Coins

New & Reduced


Author Topic: Official or Unofficial Mule?  (Read 477 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline David Atherton

  • Procurator Monetae
  • Caesar
  • *****
  • Posts: 4711
  • The meaning of life can be found in a coin.
    • Flavian Fanatic Blog
Official or Unofficial Mule?
« on: January 23, 2022, 06:40:21 am »
This mysterious Domitian dupondius came up for sale on Vcoins recently advertised as a 'mule'. Being a specialist I couldn't resist! https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174195

Until another specimen surfaces with clearer legends I'll catalogue this as a possible mule. A curiosity indeed!

Did my gamble to acquire a unique official mint mule pay off?

Offline SC

  • Tribunus Plebis Perpetuus
  • Procurator Monetae
  • Caesar
  • *****
  • Posts: 6068
    • A Handbook of Late Roman Bronze Coin Types 324-395.
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2022, 09:19:10 am »
Interesting coin.

Great big blob in the legend on the obverse.  Any other signs it may have been cast?  Edges?

Given that it was under weight, I wondered if it might be a contemporary cast imitation and perhaps made with non-matching coins used for the two sides of the mould.  This is a frequent phenomenon with the terra cotta stacked molds used extensively in late Roman era Egypt, but I don't know for sure what mould techniques were used with first century imitations in the West.

SC
SC
(Shawn Caza, Ottawa)

Offline Meepzorp

  • IMPERATOR
  • Caesar
  • *****
  • Posts: 5139
    • Meepzorp's Ancient Coins
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2022, 12:52:08 pm »
Hi DA,

Interesting coin! :)

Meepzorp

Offline curtislclay

  • Tribunus Plebis Perpetuus
  • Procurator Monetae
  • Caesar
  • *****
  • Posts: 11155
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2022, 12:52:47 pm »
I am inclined to think it's official.

It would be interesting if another coin could be located struck from the same obv. and/or rev. die.
Curtis Clay

Offline Jay GT4

  • Tribunus Plebis 2021
  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 6999
  • Leave the gun, take the Canoli!
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2022, 12:59:13 pm »
Interesting for sure.  I don't think I've ever seen lettering like that on the reverse, which seems clumsy to me but everything else looks ok.

Offline okidoki

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 4272
    • https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=37270
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2022, 02:12:53 pm »
nice find indeed
All the Best,
Eric
There are no strangers, only friends you do not know yet.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/index.php?cat=37270

Offline David Atherton

  • Procurator Monetae
  • Caesar
  • *****
  • Posts: 4711
  • The meaning of life can be found in a coin.
    • Flavian Fanatic Blog
Re: Official or Unofficial Mule?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2022, 05:11:54 am »
Thank you all for the comments.

And thanks again Curtis for your opinion!

 

All coins are guaranteed for eternity