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Cameroon Z

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Metal box or something else?
« on: January 02, 2012, 02:19:27 pm »
Here i put pictures of small metal box(i think made of plumbum)the size of that box is 70x38x15 mm.Please help me with period which is made,it looks like ancient mayle from Byzantia or Ottoman empire,and help with what exactly is it?Greetings

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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2012, 02:32:44 pm »
Why do you think it's ancient rather than 20th century?
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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2012, 02:39:32 pm »
The dimensions of your box are those I would expect for a snuff box. They were made from many materials including pewter, tin and lead. I cannot date it exactly - maybe 18th/19th century.  ???
I cannot make out the graffito scratched on the box but it is just possible that the part I have circled below is the date 1815.

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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2012, 03:06:57 pm »
It could also be 1813 in that case.
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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2012, 03:28:04 pm »
It could also be 1813 in that case.

Or 1814 - if it is even a date at all.  :P

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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 05:25:22 pm »
To me it looks like someone has tried to carve some mix of pseudo-Greek and pseudo-Aramaic gibberish into the sides and base of the box to palm it off as an ancient artifact. But 1815 was a good year (at least if your of British descent)... the defining Battle of Waterloo. However, for the life of me I cannot think of a reason why someone would carve this date preceded by pseudo-Greek gibberish.... unless of course its coded French for sour grapes!  ;D

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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 01:18:32 am »
It looks like litte 'copy' of sarcophagus,thats why i think thats maybe its ancient,but I was wrong,thank you for the opinions.

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Re: Metal box or something else?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 12:27:27 pm »
Cameroon, if you can post close up photos of the side and the top of the container please.
I want to see the inscription better.

I also notice the inscription continues around the sides.

You mention about "Byzantine" of "Ottoman" so I am guessing you got it from Turkey or the seller has told you it is from that region?

A couple of the letters before the "1813" mark on the side look Armenian, especially the ճ

I have a tin container from Turkey, given to me by my Aunt whose husband was an antiques dealer, it has a clear Armenian inscription on both sides, then "1878". In the 19th century, at least, the use of "European" (Arabic) numerals on metal ware seems to have become the vogue for metal smiths in Anatolia.
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