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15 mm,  0,9gr.
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Fake Coins and Notorious Fake Sellers / Re: Fake Akragas?
« Last post by glebe on Today at 05:26:13 am »
Fake patina? Looks good to me.
Doesn't exist in copper - you mean you haven't seen one until now.
Bad tourist fake - well, that at least is true - what tourist would buy something like that.

Ross G.
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Ancient and Medieval Coin Identification Help / Re: last akce for ID
« Last post by Giba L on Today at 05:23:37 am »
so, at the momment I will put as Suleyman I , I Guess.


many thanks for all

I still.have 4 para and 2 strange one.... 
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Forum numizmatyki antycznej po polsku / Re: Frustracja
« Last post by Lech Stępniewski on Today at 05:20:55 am »
Niech Pan da znać, jak się sprawa dalej potoczy.

Oczywiście, że dam znać. W końcu po to jest ten kącik, żeby dawać znać.
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Ancient and Medieval Coin Identification Help / Re: last akce for ID
« Last post by Jan P on Today at 04:38:05 am »
Well. . . I am wrestling with your third coin here.
On top of the obverse, there is the word "Sultan".
The second line must give the name of the sultan. I am not sure, but it could be something like "Süleyman"
On top of the reverse, there is a fix formula followed by duriba fi = struck at.
Under the horizontal strike of the "fi", we should find the name of the mint.
It looks most like "Serez", but that is far from sure.
The combination of Süleyman and Serez brings me no picture with resemblance to your nr.3  :-\.
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Fake Coins and Notorious Fake Sellers / Re: Fake Akragas?
« Last post by Din X on Today at 03:17:28 am »
Did I miss something?
Why exactly is this condemned?

Ross G.


I always have problems to understand you, because you ask questions which have been already answered and others including me seem to understand the answers.

While I was writing Altamura has already answered, but I do not want to delete so maybe some points written by Altamura will be now repeated in my post.


What we have is fake of a tetradrachm with artificial patina, this type does not exist in bronze!
The coin is vey likely a cast fake, too.

There are bronze coins of Akragas with crab and eagle but they do not have the double spiral on the reverse and more important no legend on the obverse (you can see some letter on the obverse).

What speaks against authenticity:

artificial patina, wrong metal, type doesn´t exist in bronze only in Silver as tetradrachm

What speaks for authenticity

NOOOOOOTHING NOOTHING, bad tourist fake



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Forum numizmatyki antycznej po polsku / Re: Frustracja
« Last post by DzikiZdeb on Today at 03:09:57 am »
Wygląda na to, że w tym wypadku opłaciło się pomarudzić :-)

Niech Pan da znać, jak się sprawa dalej potoczy.
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Fake Coins and Notorious Fake Sellers / Re: Fake Akragas?
« Last post by Altamura on Today at 03:02:48 am »
... Why exactly is this condemned? ...
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... This type seems to exist only in silver as tetradrachm. ...
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... Characteristic for your coin are the spirals below the crab. But this is something you only have on silver coins from Akragas  :-\. ...

Regards

Altamura
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Hello,

The die match with already known specimens is convincing method for attribution of new, or less preserved coins.
In respect to the definitive number of specimens, this is tricky question, due to the fact that the new material is coming up on the market or in publications. Some of the pieces given in catalogues might be wrongly attributed, which obscures their existence.

Regards,
Teutoburgium
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Fake Coins and Notorious Fake Sellers / Re: Fake Akragas?
« Last post by glebe on Today at 02:02:22 am »
Did I miss something?
Why exactly is this condemned?

Ross G.
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