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Offline Serendipity

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Cataloguing Ancient Coins
« on: March 04, 2021, 06:31:42 am »
I’m both intrigued and puzzled as a newbie about how ancient coins are catalogued. I would love to catalogue my coins in the same precise way. You’ve got, for example, two Hadrian denarii which were minted in Rome, 136 A.D., and which feature Hadrian’s bust on the obverse and the Roman goddess Fides on the reverse. The only difference between the two is that in one of the denarii Hadrian is not wearing his laureate. Both share the same reference SRCV II 3492.

To avoid confusion, I can understand why the laureate head right is mentioned as a variant in the Hadrian denarius without his laureate, SRCV II 3492 var. (laureate). However, the other Hadrian denarius with his laureate is just referred to as SRCV II 3492 and makes no mention of the bare head right variant. Perhaps cataloguing ancient coins is not as mystifying as it looks and the cataloguer simply forgot to mention the bare head right variant or wasn’t aware of it.

I’m hoping to catalogue my own Hadrian denarius without his laureate as SRCV II 3513 var. (laureate) in order to distinguish it from another similar Hadrian denarius with his laureate. They both share the same RIC II reference RIC II 257. However, the Hadrian denarius with his laureate doesn’t seem to have a SRCV II reference. In that case, should the RIC II be used to refer to the variants, i.e. RIC II 257 var. (laureate) or var. (bare head). One auctioneer got so confused between the two Hadrian denarii that he unintentionally catalogued the laureate head right denarius as SRCV II 3513.

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Re: Cataloguing Ancient Coins
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2021, 09:32:38 am »
If you want to catalog your coins uniformly based on a reference work I would choose the most comprehensive and up-to-date one. In the case of Hadrian, this is the new RIC, which is now also available online on OCRE.  Even there, there will be coins that you will have to catalog as variations but certainly fewer than in a less detailed work.

A Hadrian/Fides example:

The new RIC distinguishes here between: Head of Hadrian, laureate, right Head of Hadrian, right Head of Hadrian, left Bust of Hadrian, draped, right, viewed from rear or side Bust of Hadrian, draped and cuirassed, right, viewed from front

See Hadrian 2199-2203
(You have to scroll down to see the different types and RIC numbers)

http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.2_3(2).hdn.2199-2203




and a Hadrian/Pietas example:
http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.2_3(2).hdn.2022-2027

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Re: Cataloguing Ancient Coins
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2021, 05:03:39 pm »
If you want to catalog your coins uniformly based on a reference work I would choose the most comprehensive and up-to-date one. In the case of Hadrian, this is the new RIC, which is now also available online on OCRE.  Even there, there will be coins that you will have to catalog as variations but certainly fewer than in a less detailed work.

A Hadrian/Fides example:

The new RIC distinguishes here between: Head of Hadrian, laureate, right Head of Hadrian, right Head of Hadrian, left Bust of Hadrian, draped, right, viewed from rear or side Bust of Hadrian, draped and cuirassed, right, viewed from front

See Hadrian 2199-2203
(You have to scroll down to see the different types and RIC numbers)

http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.2_3(2).hdn.2199-2203




and a Hadrian/Pietas example:
http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.2_3(2).hdn.2022-2027

Wow! You’ve been incredibly helpful! I never knew so many variations of the Hadrian Pietas denarius existed! I’ve bookmarked the online OCRE resource in my notes. My Hadrian denarius is the bare head right variety (RIC II-3 2023).

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=52102&pos=0

 

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