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Offline Kilian O

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Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:35:16 am »
Good day,

Is it possible this could be a washer armour fitting for Lorica Segmentata?
It's silvered copper alloy, diameter 24mm and weights arround 19 grams.

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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2021, 10:13:14 pm »
I don't think so.  All the ones I've seen are rosettes and not as domed.

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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2021, 03:49:17 am »
Hi,

Hi,

There are a variety of circular studs described as belt mounts (some up to 24mm) in Roman Buckles and Military Fittings by Appels and Laycock. Figure AA10.11 in particular is very similar to yours.

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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2021, 10:05:30 am »
I don't think so.  All the ones I've seen are rosettes and not as domed.

Hey,

Yeah I do agree but I have found references online that it might be. Problem is that these washers were quite universal, could be part of baldric,armour,helmet or just a belt mount.



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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2021, 10:09:53 am »
Hi,

Hi,

There are a variety of circular studs described as belt mounts (some up to 24mm) in Roman Buckles and Military Fittings by Appels and Laycock. Figure AA10.11 in particular is very similar to yours.

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Mauseus

Thanks for replying. I did see that it's very similar so i'm learning more towards it being a mount of some sort rather then a washer.

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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2021, 10:47:54 am »
I don't think so.  All the ones I've seen are rosettes and not as domed.

Hey,

Yeah I do agree but I have found references online that it might be. Problem is that these washers were quite universal, could be part of baldric,armour,helmet or just a belt mount.




If it had a hole in the middle I would say yes, but the one you show has a solid dome, so it's not a "washer."  More likely a decorative rosette from the Antonine and later period.  Look at Bishop and Coulston's  Roman Military Equipment 2nd Edition fig 101 #3 (reproduced in the link below as the UTERE FELIX belt fittings).

http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEquipment-cingulum.html

 Although it doesn't have to be military in nature either.

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Re: Lorica Segmentata Washer?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2021, 05:32:03 pm »
Although it does look like some belt decorations, the size and weight and construction appear to indicate that it might be a decoration for something more sturdy than a leather belt or strap - like a wooden box or piece of furniture.

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