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STEVEN M1:
I'm finally digitizing my copy of Hartwig (1910). If anyone needs the Plates I've dropped them off at my website; feel free to download them.

There are 28 of them, named

https://www.rnumis.com/downloads/SANTA_1910_03_07_T0600_01.jpg
https://www.rnumis.com/downloads/SANTA_1910_03_07_T0600_02.jpg
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etc
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https://www.rnumis.com/downloads/SANTA_1910_03_07_T0600_28.jpg

I'm not scanning the text as the catalog is also at Hathitrust https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$c148974. Their plates are poor, however.

Steve

Meepzorp:
Hi SM,

Thanks for posting this.

Someone had some very nice Campania coins over 100 years ago.

Meepzorp

STEVEN M1:
You're very welcome :) I wonder where those coins are now?!

The reason I pulled Hartwig off the shelf was a Taras didrachm with elephant that I came across in the 1924 Naville Bement Sale, lot 100 (see image).  I think the Vlasto number is 732.
The Bement lot is listed as having weight 6.29g and ex Hartwig, Rome 1912. Well, Hartwig was 1910, and as a Hartwig lot number wasn't mentioned I needed to check. The online HathiTrust plate was far too poor to use.

What I found in my copy of Hartwig was lot 121 (see image) It looks very similar and may well be the same coin but I'm not 100% sure. The catalogued sizes match. However, the Hartwig catalog lists the weight as 7.25g...clearly very different, so if it is the same coin, somebody is wrong. It sold for a respectable 675 Francs in 1910, more than 10x the price of other nearby Taras lots.
So, I'm still researching....maybe I'll find it in a later sale, or somebody here owns it!

I love the didrachm with elephant, by the way. I don't know how rare they are, or why an elephant. 

Steve

Meepzorp:
Hi SM,

I also wonder where those coins are now. It is difficult to imagine that someone could assemble a collection of such beautiful coins 100-150 years ago. Vlasto and Cote (Ratto-Cote) were able to assemble comprehensive and almost unimaginable collections of Taras coins during that time period. Obviously, the material was available back then, but it is difficult to image how because metal detectors weren't in widespread use, and excavations of ancient archaeological sites were a fraction of what they are today. You would think that the material wouldn't be available during that time period, but it was.

I have an example of the Taras didrachm (with the elephant symbol) that you mentioned. Mine is Vlasto 736. Obviously, it is not the same coin. My example has cracks and/or other flan defects on the reverse, near the dolphin's tail. The dealer that sold my example to me listed one previous dealer.

Here is my example (second coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/gi_calb_taras_pt02.htm

I also have a Neapolis didrachm with an elephant symbol (last coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/gi_camp_neap_ar04.htm

Meepzorp

Meepzorp:
Hi SM,

As you may know (if you have ever looked at my website), I love Magna Graecia coins, especially Campania coins. In that Hartwig sale, in addition to Taras coins, there are some beautiful Campania coins (Hyria. Neapolis, etc.) in the first plate. I have many of those coins, but most of those are in much better condition than mine.

In particular, lot #6 (Hyria) is exceptionally nice. I have an example of that coin, but mine is much lower grade.

Here is my example (fifth coin):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/meepzorp/gi_camp_hyria_irnthi.htm

Meepzorp

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