Author Topic: New Military diploma fragment from 133 AD. (Read 2971 times)

quadrans · « **on:** February 19, 2016, 04:08:10 pm »

New Military diploma fragment from 133 AD.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-127290

This little fragment of a military diploma...
Identify done, which can be found at the Academia.Edu..:

"Constitution for the auxiliary units of an uncertain province
issued 2 July (?) 133 on a new military diploma"

https://www.academia.edu/22189075/Constitution_for_the_auxiliary_units_of_an_uncertain_province_issued_2_July_133_on_a_new_military_diploma

Best regards
Q.

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:11:45 pm »

Amazing Q!
I love these fragments.
Also wanted to say thanks, your friend has been working on dating mine...

quadrans · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:13:54 pm »

You are welcome Jay as always

Regards
Q.

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:31:05 pm »

Maybe mine will be published too

quadrans · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:32:22 pm »

Quote from: Jay GT4 on February 19, 2016, 04:31:05 pm

Maybe mine will be published too

We are working on it

Regards
Q.

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2016, 04:54:10 pm »

I appreciate it!

I realized I didn't update what Istvan last sent me so I just did.

Vladislav D · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2016, 08:50:32 pm »

Nice piece !
Congratulation

Regards ,
Vlad

Nemonater · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2016, 10:23:00 pm »

Awesome piece Q, looking forward to reading the write up!

Nemo

TenthGen · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:20:37 pm »

Wow! These diplomas are fascinating. I had no idea that they had survived in significant enough numbers to ever be privately owned. I've been reading about them for the past few minutes, and they seem to be a tremendous information resource due to the possibility of the larger fragments having dates, names, family, origins, etc. Very cool!

Thanks for sharing!

quadrans · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2016, 03:39:06 am »

Hi my frineds , Vlad, Nemo, TenthGen,

Thank you both of you the nice words..

Regards

Q.

SC · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm »

Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2016, 03:31:11 pm »

Quote from: otlichnik on February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm

Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

From the ones I've seen they all appear to be different sizes and weights. Mine is long and narrow and 3.83g

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-85615

quadrans · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2016, 03:59:39 pm »

Quote from: otlichnik on February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm

Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

Hi shawn,
I do not belive " they have some same" eight or particle ...

when a examined some, all was greatly different..

Regards
Q.

quadrans · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2016, 04:00:40 pm »

Quote from: Jay GT4 on February 20, 2016, 03:31:11 pm

Quote from: otlichnik on February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm
Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

From the ones I've seen they all appear to be different sizes and weights. Mine is long and narrow and 3.83g

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-85615

Thank you Jay you post here your example ..

Regards
Q.

Nemonater · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2016, 05:18:28 pm »

Quote from: otlichnik on February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm

Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

I've posted these in other threads but my Gordian III diploma is in four pieces, all vastly different sizes.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121561

And the same diploma with highlighted script. I'm glad I wasn't drinking a cup of coffee when I read the comments in the second link!

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121560

An interesting story is that I rescued these from four different FleaBay auctions, each weeks apart, with the seller not knowing what they were! Just listed as ancient Roman bronze. It makes me ill to think he may have sold other pieces before I happened upon the auctions.

I emailed him repeatedly to inquire if he had sold other pieces or if he had any more but never got a response.

quadrans · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2016, 05:23:19 pm »

Quote from: Nemonater on February 20, 2016, 05:18:28 pm

Quote from: otlichnik on February 20, 2016, 02:55:38 pm
Most of what are around today are small pieces of roughly the same size. I suspect they were cut up fro scrap when they were no longer useful as diplomas. I wonder if the pieces are all of similar weight or not?

Shawn

I've posted these in other threads but my Gordian III diploma is in four pieces, all vastly different sizes.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121561

And the same diploma with highlighted script. I'm glad I wasn't drinking a cup of coffee when I read the comments in the second link!

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121560

An interesting story is that I rescued these from four different FleaBay auctions, each weeks apart, with the seller not knowing what they were! Just listed as ancient Roman bronze. It makes me ill to think he may have sold other pieces before I happened upon the auctions.

I emailed him repeatedly to inquire if he had sold other pieces or if he had any more but never got a response.

Q.

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2016, 05:44:09 pm »

Quote from: Nemonater on February 20, 2016, 05:18:28 pm

I've posted these in other threads but my Gordian III diploma is in four pieces, all vastly different sizes.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121561

And the same diploma with highlighted script. I'm glad I wasn't drinking a cup of coffee when I read the comments in the second link!

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121560

I missed areich's response to my comment

. Funny!

quadrans · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2016, 10:09:20 am »

Quote from: Jay GT4 on February 20, 2016, 05:44:09 pm

Quote from: Nemonater on February 20, 2016, 05:18:28 pm

I've posted these in other threads but my Gordian III diploma is in four pieces, all vastly different sizes.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121561

And the same diploma with highlighted script. I'm glad I wasn't drinking a cup of coffee when I read the comments in the second link!

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-121560

I missed areich's response to my comment . Funny!

Q.

areich · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2016, 11:02:00 am »

I was diappointed with the response at the time.

quadrans · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2016, 11:29:05 am »

Quote from: areich on February 21, 2016, 11:02:00 am

I was diappointed with the response at the time.

Never late

Q.

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