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Antiquities Discussion Forums => Fibulae and Clothing Items => Topic started by: NIKSOL on February 20, 2022, 01:38:57 pm

Title: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on February 20, 2022, 01:38:57 pm
bronze 14.7x24.3cm
2.8gram
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: nikopolis1 on February 22, 2022, 07:30:19 am
This item they say is book lock from the medieval period.There is other opinion that it is used for straps and horse harness .Me I stick with the book lock version))
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: SC on February 22, 2022, 07:45:49 pm
I assume you mean 14.7x24.3 mm not cm!

Isn't this too thick and heavy for a medieval book lock?  I have found a couple of the book lock parts in lots of "Roman" stuff but they are very thin - all under a gram.

I think I have a paper on book lock parts somewhere.

SC
 
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: SC on February 22, 2022, 07:59:57 pm
There are two big illustrated papers I know of on book fittings:

BOOK FASTENINGS AND FURNISHINGS: An archaeology of late medieval books by Charlotte L. Howsam

Book fittings: the archaeological reconstruction of (post-)medieval books by Berna van wijk.

Neither has the exact item though some are close.  The size is right but unsure about the thickness and weight is not given.

They are the strap ends of the buckle-system for closing large medieval books.

So no hard evidence either way but they certainly could be book fastening parts...

SC
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on February 23, 2022, 02:37:57 pm
yes sorry, it's millimeter(mm)
I think it is closer to a horse part
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: nikopolis1 on March 04, 2022, 07:05:09 am
Have one pdf file ''Metal decorations found in Veliki Preslav'' .There they are describing this item like book lock,though they say could be with dual purpose.Item there is same like yours ,same size.Book lock or not it is a nice find,have the same))
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on March 09, 2022, 03:31:14 pm
I found the same on some sites. It is referred to as the Celtic amulet...
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on March 09, 2022, 03:33:12 pm
I found the same on some sites. It is referred to as the Celtic amulet...
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on March 09, 2022, 03:43:22 pm
that too
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on March 09, 2022, 04:14:34 pm
ok
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: SC on March 09, 2022, 05:58:34 pm
Not an amulet.  There are several sites that just string ancient objects and call them amulets.

SC
Title: Re: is a buckle or hanging around the neck
Post by: NIKSOL on March 10, 2022, 03:06:41 pm
aaa ok thank you.!!!