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Offline AugustusSPQR

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Two Possible Fake Bronzes (Philip I and Philip II)
« on: December 16, 2022, 07:05:15 pm »
Purchased these in an auction a bit ago but I just wanted some opinions. Both in hand seem cast rather than struck, but i'm unfamilar with these types.

1. Syria, Cyrrhestica. Cyrrhus . Philip I. AD 244-249. Æ (28mm, 16 g).
2. Syria, Seleucis and Pieria. Antioch. Philip II. AD 247-249. Æ 8 Assaria (29mm, 17.5 g).
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Offline djmacdo

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Re: Two Possible Fake Bronzes (Philip I and Philip II)
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2022, 08:07:58 pm »
Why do you suspect them?  They look OK to me, and I doubt just about every thing!
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Offline Abu Galyon

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Re: Two Possible Fake Bronzes (Philip I and Philip II)
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2022, 08:14:25 pm »
They also look genuine to me, and the sizes and weights are correct. The Antioch coin, by the way, is Philip I (reference: McAlee 977) not Philip II. Philip II is always depicted beardless.

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Re: Two Possible Fake Bronzes (Philip I and Philip II)
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2022, 11:03:47 pm »
I assumed much of the pitting was evidence of casting, but perhaps i'm looking too much into it. The edges appear unusually round and almost look filed in places but, again, not too knowledgeable on these provincials. I'll try to take some in hand pictures.
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Re: Two Possible Fake Bronzes (Philip I and Philip II)
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2022, 06:35:39 am »
Casting bubbles are almost invariably circular. The pitting on your coins is a mixture of circles, ovals, and more irregular shapes, which is what you'd expect if formed through natural corrosion.

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