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Offline Victor C

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300 uncleaned from a hoard
« on: March 14, 2012, 05:33:53 pm »
I just got these 300 coins from Eastern Europe and according to the seller they all came from the same hoard. They look pretty good and a few only need a little brushing. I will update as I clean them if I find any interesting coins.

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 06:02:53 pm »
Nice. Doesnt look like you need to do much to them

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 06:12:56 pm »
Victor,

Yes, a DS soak and a tooth brush, and you will have your nose down to your desk for quite a while with many triumphs (much to your wife's chagrin!) ;)

Are these for your website studies or are you going to resell them?

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 06:23:15 pm »
Nice looking lot.  Congrats!

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 06:26:08 pm »
Very nice, but I think I would not soak and brush all of them. Some beautiful sandy type patina coins to be had with just some minor highlighting cleanup IMO. I see a beauty on top of the pile I AK thinking of in particular. But that is just me...

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 06:43:37 pm »
you will have your nose down to your desk for quite a while with many triumphs (much to your wife's chagrin!)

Are these for your website studies or are you going to resell them?

Actually I have my wife's blessing... she encouraged me to get back into ancients.

I will most likely resell these at some point.
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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2012, 07:56:31 pm »
They look vary in the thickness of the dirt, I for sure wont treat them all the same way, put them in groups depending on how much dirt and incrustation they have, it is very nice group, dont miss it.
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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 04:00:40 am »
Great find Victor!!

I would be very grateful if you would share the attribution details (including the field markings on the SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE and GLORIA ROMANORVM types) when have had time to examine them all.  (With weights would be even better.)

On initial examination of the photo the dirt and the visible patina under look like they support an attribution to one or more hoards versus the usual scattered field finds.

A large number of SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE and GLORIA ROMANORVM are visible.  However, all of the campgates and the left facing busts (which must be mid-denomination FEL TEMPs) are very interesting.  Some earlier coins continued to circulate circa 364-378 with the SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE and GLORIA ROMANORVM types - in particlar those with a similar module.  However, I think it would be very odd to see campgates and mid-FTRs and not to see early (large module) two-standard GLORIA EXERCITVS and smaller/later FTR Horsemen - though maybe they are in other parts of the pile.

In any event, when attribution of the 300 is compared to other Balkan hoards you might get some clues as to what you have got there.

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 04:43:42 pm »
Nothing special, but here are a few that needed little attention...plus I just wanted to experiment with a new camera.
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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 04:48:09 pm »
Bottom right has an interesting portrait, doesn't it?

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 02:10:10 pm »
here is an uncommon reverse type that I got from these coins

Gratian
367-375 AD 
2.5 gm   17mm
Obv. DN GRATIANVS AVGG AVG  pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev. GLORIA NO-VI SAECVLI [Glory of the new age]  Emperor standing facing, head left,
holding labarum inscribed with a chi-rho in right hand and resting left hand on shield
In ex: TCON dot
RIC IX Arles 15

from RIC IX

"This presented him to his father's subjects as the boy destined to fulfil the Messianic prophecy of the Sibylline books and to usher in a Golden Age of justice and plenty."  That is a lot to expect of one boy!
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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 07:27:49 pm »
Three unusual officinae from the common SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE. The first two are from Rome-- RPRIMA and RSECUNDA and the last from Arles-- OF III
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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 10:34:37 am »
Bottom right has an interesting portrait, doesn't it?

mz

I'd like to see the other side of that one.  For that matter I prefer all posted coins show both sides.

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Re: 300 uncleaned from a hoard
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2014, 11:17:29 am »
Victor,

Did you ever compile a full listing of this hoard with mint and field marks or RIC numbers?  It would be a great addition to the literature as there is a real shortage of Valentinian hoards published.

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