Berenike II overstruck on Antiochos II with two countermarks

[Connect4]

I would appreciate feedback on this unusual coin. I first posted it in 2014.  At the time thinking it was a Ptolemy II laureate head of Zeus with reverse of Eagle standing left on thunderbolt.  I have recently viewed an excellent site http://ptolemybronze.com/ and revised my option and improved the image.
Obv. bust of Berenike II right. Rev. Eagle standing left on thunderbolt. Two countermarks One is 3.3mm diameter. It’s difficult to resolve but looks like an amphora or vase with a split. Perhaps a cloven hoof? The same countermark, undescribed, is shown at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6637394
The other countermark is 5.8 x 3.8mm and is probably a cornucopia? The coin is 3.9gr axis 12hr,16.3-16.6mm & 3.8mm thick.  
The site page ‘COIN PHOTOS - View Mint and Denomination Series of Ptolemaic Bronzes’ discusses ‘Ptolemy II - Ptolemy III - Ptolemy IV Queen Portraits’ Many examples from the Svoronos catalogue are shown on the page.
I feel my coin is a slightly smaller example of the coin described as “18mm - 4.6gm Sv1056 (overstruck on Seleucid bronze, SC 572)”.  I have posted the image from the site below my coin.  Part of the under-type V can be seen on the edge at 6 o’clock on my coin. Other parts of the under-type may be present at 9 o’clock?  The cornucopia counterstamp is seen in the same area but rotated by 180 degrees.  There are several examples of the undertype - Seleukid Antiochos II AE Laureate head of Apollo right / Apollo seated left on omphalos SC 572 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=820927
Thanks

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[PtolemAE]

I would appreciate feedback on this unusual coin. I first posted it in 2014.  At the time thinking it was a Ptolemy II laureate head of Zeus with reverse of Eagle standing left on thunderbolt.  I have recently viewed an excellent site http://ptolemybronze.com/ and revised my option and improved the image.
Obv. bust of Berenike II right. Rev. Eagle standing left on thunderbolt. Two countermarks One is 3.3mm diameter. It’s difficult to resolve but looks like an amphora or vase with a split. Perhaps a cloven hoof? The same countermark, undescribed, is shown at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6637394
The other countermark is 5.8 x 3.8mm and is probably a cornucopia? The coin is 3.9gr axis 12hr,16.3-16.6mm & 3.8mm thick.  
The site page ‘COIN PHOTOS - View Mint and Denomination Series of Ptolemaic Bronzes’ discusses ‘Ptolemy II - Ptolemy III - Ptolemy IV Queen Portraits’ Many examples from the Svoronos catalogue are shown on the page.
I feel my coin is a slightly smaller example of the coin described as “18mm - 4.6gm Sv1056 (overstruck on Seleucid bronze, SC 572)”.  I have posted the image from the site below my coin.  Part of the under-type V can be seen on the edge at 6 o’clock on my coin. Other parts of the under-type may be present at 9 o’clock?  The cornucopia counterstamp is seen in the same area but rotated by 180 degrees.  There are several examples of the undertype - Seleukid Antiochos II AE Laureate head of Apollo right / Apollo seated left on omphalos SC 572 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=820927
Thanks

Hello Connect4

I don't clearly see bits of inscription that might identify your coin's undertype with certainty. It could be the same or similar to one from

ptolemybronze.com

Both have a cornucopia countermark but if there's a second countermark on yours it's not like the other coin (clear PTO or trident).

Afaik this undertype is a little unusual in that the object Apollo is leaning back on is a lyre rather than the usual bow. And on SC572, Apollo isn't seated on an omphalos, rather on a chair or throne. Those details may be important, too.

PtolemAE

[Connect4]

Thanks PtolemAE
The site http://ptolemybronze.com/ led me to this article, "The Ptolemaic mint of Ras ibn Hani," INR 2 (2007), pp. 63-75. I retrieved it on March 21 2021, from https://www.academia.edu/2181420/C_Lorber_The_Ptolemaic_mint_of_Ras_ibn_Hani_INR_2_2007_pp_63_75   
I now  describe the coin as
Obv. bust of Berenike II right. Rev. Eagle standing left on thunderbolt. Two countermarks One is 3.3mm diameter. Another that looks like an amphora or vase with a split. I now understand that it's a pair of grain kernels. The same countermark, undescribed, is shown at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6637394
I have attached an image with the ‘Apollo is leaning back on is a lyre’ type for comparison.  I admit an under type is not clear. Well, there's hardly any of it!  However, given the countermarks and the other features it perhaps makes my speculation possible? 
 

[PtolemAE]

Thanks PtolemAE
The site http://ptolemybronze.com/ led me to this article, "The Ptolemaic mint of Ras ibn Hani," INR 2 (2007), pp. 63-75. I retrieved it on March 21 2021, from https://www.academia.edu/2181420/C_Lorber_The_Ptolemaic_mint_of_Ras_ibn_Hani_INR_2_2007_pp_63_75   
I now  describe the coin as
Obv. bust of Berenike II right. Rev. Eagle standing left on thunderbolt. Two countermarks One is 3.3mm diameter. Another that looks like an amphora or vase with a split. I now understand that it's a pair of grain kernels. The same countermark, undescribed, is shown at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6637394
I have attached an image with the ‘Apollo is leaning back on is a lyre’ type for comparison.  I admit an under type is not clear. Well, there's hardly any of it!  However, given the countermarks and the other features it perhaps makes my speculation possible? 
 

The Lorber paper is important and so are the variations of overstriking and with countermarks that add to the story of how and when, in addition to where, those coins came to be. Your coin could be an overstrike and the undertype might be the lyre type but it's not obvious. Your coin does have two interesting countermarks.

I found a related coin that is the lyre undertype with only the 'trident/PTO' countermark which tends to indicate four stages of development of the type illustrated at

ptolemybronze.com:

1. original Seleukid lyre undertype
2. first modification - addition of a trident/PTO countermark
3. second modification - overstiking by Ptolemaic Berenike/Eagle dies
4. third modification - addition of cornucopia countermark

Political/economic events (capture of a treasury, shortage of coins, etc.) led to re-design and re-marking of one coin blank at least three times. Might be especially interesting if you can find variations of your coin in similarly identifiable stages of its development that might show if the coin went through a similar sequence of modifications or if both countermarks were applied only after overstriking, etc.

The identifiable undertype shows the Ptolemaic coin production took plac after those Seleukid coins were issued and help to date things.

PtolemAE

[Connect4]

Thanks PtolemAE, your comments are most interesting and appreciated. I have added my image again as I understand that I included other’s images originally. And all were removed. I'm sorry my picture is poor.  My apologises that I didn’t think before the first post.   

[PtolemAE]

Thanks PtolemAE, your comments are most interesting and appreciated. I have added my image again as I understand that I included other’s images originally. And all were removed. I'm sorry my picture is poor.  My apologises that I didn’t think before the first post.   

Thanks. Still not sure if it's an overstrike and, if it is, what the undertype is.  Two countermarks are clearly present, though.

PtolemAE