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zzz Griechische Münze Objectnummer: 1400141990433799 viewssold on ebay by mobile_aktuell on 08-aug-06 for Euro40.50epmunt
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zzz Griechische Münze ebay Objectnummer: 1400141905882993 viewsMorden cast.

fake seller : mobile_aktuell sold on ebay.de.

08-aug-06
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zzz110 viewsPosted on Fakes board by member.

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Zeugitana, Carthage, Siculo-Punic, late 5th century BC823 viewsAR tetradrachm made or plated with gold coloured metal
24mm diameter, about 4 mm thick, 11-13 grams
Obv: Horse forepart crowned by Nike flying above.
Rev: Palm tree with two bunches of dates, Phoenician legend.
Sear 6426

Cast replica in wrong metal.
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Zankle, Messana28 viewsScratch from transfer die was transferred to the fake made with it

Sicily, Zankle-Messana AR Litra. Circa 500-493 BC. ????L?, dolphin swimming left within crescent harbour, dotted border within plain double border / Nine-part incuse square with cockle shell at centre. Gielow 72-78; SNG Lloyd 1078; SNG Ashmolean 1819
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Velia, silver didrachm, #A154 viewsAR didrachm, 350-281 BC
Head of Athena left, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with Pegasos; A above; IE within square frame behind / YEΛHTΩN, stag kneeling left, being attacked by lion left, which stands on his back and bites the base of his neck
Sear 461

-REPRODUCTION From 925K Sterling silver VELIA CIRCA 290-275 BC. NOMOS
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Velia, silver didrachm117 viewsAR didrachm, 350-281 BC
Head of Athena left, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with Pegasos; A above; IE within square frame behind / YEΛHTΩN, stag kneeling left, being attacked by lion left, which stands on his back and bites the base of his neck
Sear 461

Offered by the Toronto Group under the name uganda_ancient on 02/06.

Submitted by Maridvnvm
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Velia, silver didrachm155 viewsAR stater (cast fake)
Sold on Ebay by bryguy108 with a sizable group of other cast fakes as "zodiac" coins. Seller implies that coins are authentic and no statement is made that these are clearly modern reproductions.
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Velia, silver didrachm162 viewsAR didrachm, 350-330 BC
Head of Athena right, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with griffin; monogram below / YEΛHTΩN, lion crouching right, symbols above
SNG Cop 1549v
Right rear leg of lion should be forward of left rear leg

Lucania, Velia. Circa 350-330 BC. AR Nomos

Found whilst metal detecting in a county chipbark play area in Arizona.

Appears to be a modern reproduction made in silver.

Submitted by Maridvnvm
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Velia, silver didrachm238 viewsAR didrachm, 365-340 BC
Head of Athena left, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with griffin; AP monogram behind / YEΛHTΩN, lion crouching right, caduceus above
SNG Cop 1586

For sale on Ebay in 1 day private auction by "ciceronius33", 23rd Feb. 2005. A Toronto Group coin.

Submitted by Maridvnvm
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Velia, silver didrachm205 viewsAR didrachm, 350-281 BC
Head of Athena left, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with Pegasos; A above; IE within square frame behind / YEΛHTΩN, stag kneeling left, being attacked by lion left, which stands on his back and bites the base of his neck
Sear 461

For sale on Ebay in 1 day private auction by poweroflove. A Toronto Group coin.
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Velia, Lucania88 viewsAR Didrachm, 350-281 BC
Obv:- Head of Athena left, wearing crested Athenian helmet decorated with Pegasos; SA behind.
Rev:- YEΛHTΩN, stag kneeling left, being attacked by lion left, which stands on his back and bites the base of his neck
B.M.C. 1. 50.; Sear 461
Pressed.
Ilya Prokopov
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Unknown Mint (Skyllakion?), Ae, 4th century BC50 viewsSNG Lloyd 723
Fig 14a is the false coin - 6.67g

Appearing on the market in 1985-1986. Apparently part of a "factory" from Paterno.

Published in the IAPN BOC Vol 11, No. 1 in 1986 - example 14a
Image used with permission of IAPN
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Uncertain Thraco-Macendonian Mint, Silver stater101 viewsObv:- Centaur galloping right, raising left arm; pellet to left
Rev:- Irregular, deep incuse square
Fig 4a is the false coin - 11.63g
Fig 4b is genuine from Svornos, Pl. 6,1 - 9.40g

This coin is part of what IAPN/BOC coined as the British Museum Forgers (BMF) production. These are coins based on electrotypes of coins from the British Museum (BM) that have been used to create new dies that have been enhanced in various ways. These coins are considered dangerous counterfeits and caused a lot of embarrassment amongst dealers in the mid-late 1980s when they made it through onto the market.

Whilst being dangerous they all share certain characteristics:-
a) the relief on the coin type is much more rounded and fuller than on the original coin and is often higher
b) many of the coins show no sign of any real wear but lack sharpness giving the impression of being weakly struck
c) the coin is known in an example from the same dies in the BM collection
d) the coin differs in very small ways and these changes are areas of either wear or damage on the BM coin
e) the area of join between the coin type and the flan is never really sharp
f) on gold coins the fields tend to be perfectly flat with some wavyness or convexity on the reverse. The surfaces are so perfect they look like melted chocolate
g) the pattern of wear makes no sense with very clear details on areas which are higher in relief than more flat or worn ones

This coin is a complete invention. The arms are puny and badly modelled; the horse body is clearly rectangular; the centaur's torso is in profile (instead of the expected frontal view); the forelegs are poorly made; the incuse is un-Macedonian in shape; the Aeginetian weight standard makes no sense. The type itself is unknown: the Svornos coin provides an interesting parallel.

Published in the IAPN BOC Vol 17, No. 1 in 1992 - Example 4
Image used with permission of IAPN
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Uncertain Sicily or Italy40 viewsITALY or SICILY, Uncertain. 5th century BC. AR Litra or Obol (9mm, 0.72 g).
Obv : Open mussel shell
Rev : Wheel with four spokes.

HN Italy –; HGC 2, –; SNG Lloyd 1031 (Himera[?]) = Weber 1354 (Kamarina[?]); Manganaro, mikrà pl. 3,
34 (Cumae). EF, toned. Good metal. Very rare, only three in CoinArchives.
In addition to the possible issuers listed above, see Vlasto 93 for a nomos of Tarentum with an open mussel shell as a subsidiary symbol on the obverse and a wheel as the reverse type.

Modern obverse die
Martin B4
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Uncertain mints c. 490 B.C.38 viewsAR Tetradrachm
Obv.: Two archaic female figures stg. face to face, supporting between them an amphora; flower in left field.
Rev.: Quadripartite incuse square.
Cast.
Ilya Prokopov
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Uncertain Ionian mint, Electrum stater109 viewsObv:- Forepart of lion right
Rev:- Incuse square
Fig 9a is the false coin - 13.96g
Fig 9b is genuine - AR Stater
Fig 9c is genuine - Electrum Stater.

This is an electrum version of the silver staters from an uncertain Carian mint (Caunos?) of the type Kraay-Hirmer 625. 9b shows a silver stater of this issue with lion left. Genuine staters of the obverse type the counterfeit purports to be have since come to light, see Fig. 9c, though with an entirely different reverse.

Published in the IAPN BOC Vol 21, No. 1 in 1996 - example 9a
Image used with permission of IAPN
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Uncertain Ionian mint, Electrum stater68 viewsObv:- Head of lion to right, laws open wide
Rev:- Incuse square with floral pattern
Fig 8a is the false coin - 14.06g! Type of Wiedauer 183.
Fig 8b is genuine - 16.41g Paris (photo from Traite I pl. 5, 5).

Published in the IAPN BOC Vol 21, No. 1 in 1996 - example 8a
Image used with permission of IAPN
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Umbria, Vestini. Aes Grave21 viewsUmbria, Vestini. Circa 280 b.C.
Aes Grave biunx
72g
Bull's head facing / Crescent, VES below
Reference: Thurlow-Vecchi 189

Sold as replica InAsta auction 40, lot 5722
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Umbria, Vestini. Aes Grave25 viewsUmbria, Vestini. Circa 280 b.C.
Aes Grave biunx
unknown size and weight.
Bull's head facing / Crescent, VES below
Reference: Thurlow-Vecchi 189

Sold as replica Ebay on january 2013
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Tyndaris15 viewsSICILY, Tyndaris . Circa 254-214 BC. Æ 20mm

Obv : TYNÐAPI-TAN, wreathed head of Persephone left
Rev : SW-THRES, the Dioskouri on horseback galloping left.

Calciati I pg. 80, 12; BMC Sicily pg. 235, 6; Virzi 2074

Modern reverse die and die matches
Martin B4
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TYNDARIS26 viewsTYNDARIS Æs, 380/254 v. Chr.; 9,30 g. Kopf der Helena l. mit Stephane//Einer der Dioskuren reitet r. Calciati 1. RR

made with fake dies

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-18260
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TYNDARIS 27 viewsTYNDARIS Æs, 380/254 v. Chr.; 9,30 g. Kopf der Helena l. mit Stephane//Einer der Dioskuren reitet r. Calciati 1. RR

made with fake dies

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-18260
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