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Offline Kim B. N

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Papel coin 1 needs a littel help.
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:07:15 pm »
Hi all

I hope someone might help me with this littel (i guess is medieval Papel coin) and its brother.  :)

Its:

Silver:

Weight: 1,9 grams

Size: 1,9 mm

Kind regards Kim


Offline Kim B. N

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Re: Papel coin 1 needs a littel help.
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 11:39:23 pm »
Well i think i got this one Down. Pius IV, 1 carlin n/d, Avignon 1559 - 1565, Berman 1086
Obv: PIVS PP QVARTVS
Rev: CARO-C.DE.B-ORBO-N.L.AV

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Re: Papel coin 1 needs a littel help.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2015, 10:33:24 am »
Hi Kim,

I am not sure I fully agree with your ID.
It must be from Avignon, so far so good. However, from the parts of the legends which are legible, I do not think they match with what you suggest. For instance, the reverse legend I am sure reads (starting lower right): SAN TVS PET RVS (SANTVS PETRVS - Saint Peter). A common legend on the papal coins from Avignon. The obverse legend, which identifies the pope, is a bit more tricky though, but again, I cannot see that it should end in QVARTVS (an E is clearly visible where the A should be).

If I where to guess, I would say the legend starts with PAV... (as in PAVLVS - paul), which based on my assumption regarding the reverse legend, would make this coin an Avignon Guilio (rather than carlin) from Pope Paul III (1534-1549). Only one problem here, is that this coin appears to be missing an "I" in the obverse legend?!? The Paul III Avignon Guilio should read: PAVLVS P P TERTIVS, while your coin seems to end with just TERTVS (hence missing the I). However, unless someone else has better suggestion, I would guess this is still correct (your coin just being a variant of the catalog type).

Interesting coin no doubt  :)

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Re: Papel coin 1 needs a littel help.
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 08:26:39 pm »
Hello Michael

Soo sry i havent seen you reply, it has almost been ages since i put up the coin.  :) Well you got me beat, i can see what you say about the Legend. Well it just makes the coin 

more  interesting, i do love a mystery and makes the coin 10 years older.  ;) Well i will correct the info on the note. Would you know the catalog number by any chance?

Thank you very much Kim

 

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