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Nassif
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« on: August 17, 2014, 01:45:23 am »

Hi All;
I need your help to ID this coin AE 22mm-3,8g which i believe it's Crusader? with cross & camp gate?
Thanks for any help
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2014, 11:58:29 am »

Nice coin Nassif .The cross remind me these coins that have been attributed to Tripoli, Sidon or uncertain Syria (1250-1268). Not in Malloy or Metcalf. But many new types have been found since these books was published. I seen several similar variations of this type and even more speculation about it. Most of these speculations I guess are mere speculation.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 12:10:48 am »

Great thank Vlad for your help & contribution,i agree with you....But i have found similar coin in Cyprus[Henry II] CCS 28/9 as i think there is some letters across gateway?? Huh
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Nassif
PS:What do you thing about my Edessa coin posted here??
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 11:36:01 am »

Hi Nassif ,
This coin still the mystery . When I read your post first time , I was looking on picture and missed description . Now I see  22mm , 3.8 grams - it's a follis , not denier or pougeoise. Yes , the cross still remind me the coins ( pic 1 - six- rayed chrismon pommete on reverse , not a camp gate!!!) that have been attributed to Tripoli, Sidon or uncertain Syria , but It's too heavy for this type . But who knows ? New type ? It's a gray area . I can't recall new studies that recently was done for this coins . Exactly I don't know any work except a few words in Malloy or Metcalf . Also I don't think that this is Cyprus , Henry II CCS 28-29 ( pic 2-3 ) , to heavy , wrong style .
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2014, 12:34:54 am »

Great Thanks Vlad for your contribution & help,this coin as the two others posted here[Edesa issue and the other " Follaro" from same lot],i wonder if it's not a Follaro from Sicily like the small one with cross.Of course the possibility of Sidon or other still to be confirmed,but it's too heavy as you said for such attribution
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 07:48:42 pm »

Here is my CCS 35 . AE Pougeoise 15mm http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-112174
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 02:39:20 pm »

The coin is very interesting.
Do you know location it is found?
Localization findings may help to identify
I also think it's crusaders somewhere in Syria
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2014, 09:47:20 am »

Great Thanks  Vladislav D & Vasiliy O for your valuable contribution.I persist to think that's a Crusaders from Syria as it was among lot of Crusaders coins
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