Roman barbaric imitation?

[extravaganza]

This is another metal detecting find. People are saying that this coin is a barbaric imitation but i'm not sure, it seems to be celtic. What do you guys think?

Thanks,

Joost

[Lee S]

Barbaric imitation of Tetricus I "IMP TETRICVS P F AVG"
  I have one very similar here... https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-106914
( also a UK detector find )

  Best wishes,

Lee.

[Lee S]

This topic got me thinking a little tonight..
       I know the term "celtic" generally applies to locally produced coins under the authority of a local tribe, but so called "barbaric" coins were engraved and struck by the exact same people, ( I have mentioned the similarities between authentic "Celtic" coins and "Barbarous radiates" in several other discussions ) , so I believe that there is a certain amount of overlap one can use in these situations...Celtic..  Barbaric..  Native North European? What's the difference?

[Victor C]

but so called "barbaric" coins were engraved and struck by the exact same people

We don't know who actually struck them. The most correct answer would probably be something like "different people", as sometimes local tribes may have struck some, but many were probably struck by Roman people also. There is no way to be sure, even site finds don't tell you for sure who struck these coins or actually used them. Perhaps a better term to use for these coins is "unofficial"

[Lee S]

But my point is, many "unofficial" issues share similarities with "official" Celtic coins... Wavy lines, surrealistic interpretations of the original (roman) coin they copy which look very "Celtic", there is a definate blurring of the line between official Celtic and unofficial Roman in Celtic ( north European ) coinage...

[Victor C]

there is a definate blurring of the line between official Celtic and unofficial Roman in Celtic ( north European ) coinage...

To clarify, are you comparing and equating Celtic coinage from circa 1st century B.C. with unofficial AE coinage from the late 3rd century?

[Lee S]

there is a definate blurring of the line between official Celtic and unofficial Roman in Celtic ( north European ) coinage...

To clarify, are you comparing and equating Celtic coinage from circa 1st century B.C. with unofficial AE coinage from the late 3rd century?

 Yup, stylistically I am, and also comparing and equating native artwork and also chalk carvings in the hillsides of Southern England. Many local imitations are almost entirely influenced of the occupying Romans, but every now and again one pops up which is clearly more influenced by local artistic traditions.. An absence of straight lines, a plenitude of wavy lines, and most importantly, a certain sence of humour...

  When I return to my PC I will post some examples of what I mean..

   Lee.

[Lee S]

Sorry for the delay, but here I post a barbaric radiate I recently aquired which has a definate "Celtic" feel to it....

[djmacdo]

Lee,

That is a great coin--fascinating style!

Mac