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« on: June 15, 2014, 07:16:05 am »
Hi all,
I open this thread to invite you all to participate in a beautiful self-production editorial initiative, promoted by the famous scholar Fiorenzo Catalli.
I want to make it clear that this project is completely non-profit, so this thread is not a commercial advertising, but an invitation to collaboration.
I paste below the original message by Catalli, summarized in English: helped by volunteers, the scholar is working since years to the electronic catalogation of the Coin Cabinet of the National Archaeological Museum of Florence, but he would try to release paper volumes too. To avoid asking for sponsors he decided to launch a subscription among numismatists and collectors, to publish all together a SNG catalogue, listing all the coins from Ariminum to Terina, Italic and Magna Graecia coins. Self-publishing the volume will make cost much cheaper. The only way to make this possible is to start asking a typographer and divide the true costs, without profits by anyone.
The project is to print 500 copies of a volume of 170 pages, color photos, A4 format, hardcover color, paper gr. 170, by typography Bandecchi and Vivaldi in Pontedera (PI).
Each reservation would be 15 euro per volume. Of course you can ask more than one copy.
Who is willing to help this project please communicate at the moment only membership, we will collect money (by bank wire or paypal) at the time to hand over the job to the printer. You can communicate your membership using this thread on the Italian Forum (you find attached to the italian thread some pages as sample in pdf):
http://www.lamoneta.it/topic/124526-sylloge-nummorum-graecorum-da-ariminum-a-terina/
Alternatively, you can communicate on this thread and I will report your membership onto the Italian forum. Please before giving your adhesion think about it, because to pull out at a later time would be unfair to those who are putting their efforts into the project, without having any gain.
Take into account the shipping costs to add to the printing costs. For shipping outside Italy rates do change depending on the country of destination (from Italy to USA about 25 euros) I think it is still a good cost if compared with the average price of any SNG volume.

I hope many of you will help in this revolutionary project.

Regards :)
Nico



The original message by F. Catalli:

Cari amici,
                                chi mi segue da tempo conosce il mio interesse non solo a portare avanti il catalogo on line del Monetiere del Museo Archeologico Nazionale di Firenze ma anche a far uscire i relativi cataloghi cartacei. Nonostante qualcuno potrebbe giudicarli superati dalla Rete, chi vi scrive ha ancora voglia di sfogliare un bel catalogo pagina per pagina.
 
I generosi sponsor che fino ad oggi mi hanno aiutato non possono fare miracoli!
 
Per questo ho pensato di lanciare una sottoscrizione per pubblicare tutti insieme un catalogo della Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, con tutte le monete da Ariminum a Terina, monete italiche e magno greche.
 
L’unico modo è partire da un preventivo vero presso un tipografo e dividerci i costi veri, senza lucro da parte di nessuno.
Per stampare 500 copie di un volume di 170 pagine, foto a colori, formato A4, copertina cartonata a colori, carta gr. 170, la tipografia Bandecchi e Vivaldi di Pontedera (PI) mi ha chiesto 5.400 euro per un prezzo a volume di 10,80 euro. Tenete, però, presente che io devo dare in omaggio almeno 120-130 copie non solo agli autori ma anche alle biblioteche specializzate, anche dei circoli numismatici, alla biblioteca del Museo di Firenze per scambio, ai funzionari e a tutto il personale del Museo che ha collaborato e agli amici della struttura de La moneta.it che ha collaborato e sta collaborando con la  messa on line di ogni singola moneta. Per questo motivo la vostra prenotazione sarebbe di 15 euro a volume. E naturalmente potete chiedere più di una copia
Chi è disposto ad aiutarmi mi comunichi per il momento solo l’adesione…….. per raccogliere i soldi c’è tempo al momento di consegnare il lavoro al tipografo.
Vi allego qualche pagina del catalogo e aspetto fiducioso…..
 
Fiorenzo Catalli



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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 04:20:51 pm »
Update:
The volumes should be ready for early summer.
For those interested I can help as a linguistic intermediary for contacts with Catalli.

Bye :)
Nico

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 04:24:55 pm »
You can sign me up for a copy.
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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 04:28:09 pm »
Thank you Joe, but you do not need to. 
I already ordered an extra copy that I'll ship you as my gift to the forvm ;)

Best
Nico

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 03:38:03 pm »
Hi Taras,

You didn't specify what the final cost is. The average cost of a SNG volume is typically about $200 to $300 per volume. As long as the final cost of this reference book is in that range (or lower), I'd like to purchase a copy.

However, if the final cost is going to be significantly more than that, then people should be given an "opt out".

The way I am interpreting all of this is that the final cost is "open ended". Sometimes, these types of situations can end in disaster. You are asking people to commit to something when they don't know what the final cost is going to be.

Meepzorp

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 03:53:48 pm »
Quote from: Meepzorp on March 11, 2016, 03:38:03 pm
Hi Taras,

You didn't specify what the final cost is. The average cost of a SNG volume is typically about $200 to $300 per volume. As long as the final cost of this reference book is in that range (or lower), I'd like to purchase a copy.

However, if the final cost is going to be significantly more than that, then people should be given an "opt out".

The way I am interpreting all of this is that the final cost is "open ended". Sometimes, these types of situations can end in disaster. You are asking people to commit to something when they don't know what the final cost is going to be.

Meepzorp

Hi Meep, sorry, maybe I was not clear in the first post. The only cost of the book is that for the reservation. The great idea by Catalli was to bypass all the expenses for a publication like this by a major publisher. He just compiled the SNG and gathered reservations to print 500 copies at the typography Bandecchi e Vivaldi.
So, the final cost is 15 euros (c. 17 $) + shipping.

Bye :)
Nico

EDIT march 12, 2016: From now on, any new reservation will have the final cost of 20 euros , and maybe it will be not satisfied cause unavailability of copies to reserve

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 04:33:58 pm »
i'm in!

i think this is a great idea Nico. just let me know where to send my PayPal payment.

~ Peter

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2016, 06:26:24 am »
Thank you!
I'll post on lamoneta any request received on this board.
I'll contact you for contacts and payment in the next months

Bye :)
nico

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2016, 07:05:13 am »
Thank you Joe, but you do not need to. 
I already ordered an extra copy that I'll ship you as my gift to the forvm ;)

Best
Nico

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2016, 08:47:41 am »
I'll take one too.

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2016, 12:59:28 pm »
I'll take one too.

No need.
Your copy is already counted in my personal reservation buddy!
I'll give it to you in the summer when we'll meet with our families on the banks of the Acheloos river :)

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2016, 01:10:13 pm »
Count me in

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2016, 01:48:20 pm »
Count me in too.

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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2016, 01:48:57 pm »
Sorry all, but I misunderstood some of the last communications with F. Catalli.

first: the printer will be C. Costantini's Numismatica Picena (not Bandecchi e Vivaldi of Pontedera), and the final cost will be a few dollars higher, but in any case "not more than 20 euro".
second: I am not sure that F.Catalli will accept new reservations, so the reservations by Enodia, Meepzorp, Norbert, and those who wrote me private messages are to be confirmed (I just asked him, if he confirms availability I will pay the few euros more for each copy, as I am guilt of giving you a wrong information).

From now on, any new reservation will have the final cost of 20 euros , and maybe it will be not satisfied cause unavailability of copies to reserve.




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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2016, 01:51:30 pm »
cckk we posted contemporary.
Please read my last message, the cost is slightly higher, and I am not sure your reservation can be satisfied.
sorry.

As I just wrote:
From now on, any new reservation will have the final cost of 20 euros , and maybe it will be not satisfied cause unavailability of copies to reserve.

I will update this thread asap.

Nico

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2016, 02:09:59 pm »
cckk we posted contemporary.
Please read my last message, the cost is slightly higher, and I am not sure your reservation can be satisfied.
sorry.

As I just wrote:
From now on, any new reservation will have the final cost of 20 euros , and maybe it will be not satisfied cause unavailability of copies to reserve.

I will update this thread asap.

Nico

 Hi Nico,

 If it is possibile, I also counted a copy...:)

 Best regards
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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2016, 02:42:27 pm »
Quote from: quadrans on March 12, 2016, 02:09:59 pm
cckk we posted contemporary.
Please read my last message, the cost is slightly higher, and I am not sure your reservation can be satisfied.
sorry.

As I just wrote:
From now on, any new reservation will have the final cost of 20 euros , and maybe it will be not satisfied cause unavailability of copies to reserve.

I will update this thread asap.

Nico

 Hi Nico,

 If it is possibile, I also counted a copy...:)

 Best regards
 Q.

I took note, thanks :)
I will confirm availability asap

Nico

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Re: new SNG Italia, let's self-publish it!
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2016, 05:54:32 pm »
Hi Taras,

There is no need for you to lay out the few euros more in my case. I will pay 20 euros for the book.:)

That is nothing compared to what I usually pay for ancient numismatic reference books. I typically pay many hundreds of dollars for each volume.

Meepzorp

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2016, 07:20:12 pm »
Quote from: Meepzorp on March 12, 2016, 05:54:32 pm
Hi Taras,

There is no need for you to lay out the few euros more in my case. I will pay 20 euros for the book.:)

That is nothing compared to what I usually pay for ancient numismatic reference books. I typically pay many hundreds of dollars for each volume.

Meepzorp

Thanks Meep!  +++
:)
Nico

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2016, 05:41:30 pm »
Great news from Catalli! :)
He just said that it's still possible to order copies of the book, so all your reservations are confirmed, and he can accept still more!!
Come on folks!! ;)

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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2016, 07:48:33 am »
I would like a copy.

I hope this excellent idea works and forms a course for future volumes.

Mac

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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2016, 01:43:44 pm »
Two copies for me!
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2016, 03:01:39 pm »
I would like a copy please ))

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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 06:30:40 pm »
Thank you all, I just updated the list.
I will contact you all by PM when the volume is ready.


I hope this excellent idea works and forms a course for future volumes.

Mac

I hope so too :)

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