Author Topic: Nice Constantinus-I. COTD, SOLI INVICTO COMITI (Read 4433 times)

quadrans · « **on:** May 05, 2013, 05:26:55 am »

Nice Constantinus-I. COTD, SOLI INVICTO COMITI

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-96072

Constantinus-I (306-309 A.D. Caesar, 309-910 A.D. Filius Augustorum, 307-337 A.D. Augustus), AE-3 Follis, RIC VI 893, Trier, SOLI INVICTO COMITI, Radiate Sol head right,
avers:- CONSTANTINVS-PF-AVG, Laureate, cuirassed bust right.
revers:- SOLI-INVICTO-COMITI, Sol radiate, draped bust right.
exergue: -,
diameter: 20-22,5mm,
weight: 3,87g,
mint: Trier,
axis: 6h,
date: 310-313 A.D.,
ref: RIC-VI-893, p-227,

regards
quadrans

Heliodromus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2013, 08:52:03 am »

Nice coin, quadrans!

Actually much nicer than you already think it is ....

Although RIC only lists this type from Trier, they were actually also struck at a few other mints after Constantine's victories on his Italian campaign c.312. The only way to identity the mint (given no mintmark) is by bust style, and yours is from Ticinum. These may have been struck after Constantine's final victory over Maxentius, or possibly earlier after his initial northern Italian victories as he took control of the Ticinum mint.

I'm guessing you got it for a "Trier" price... well done!

Ben

quadrans · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2013, 09:05:46 am »

Yes Ben it is hapenned

thank you to the good news

I bought it in a lot but of course a "Trier" price....

Could you suggested me some literature from this distribution of this kind of coins by busts.

Regards
quadrans

Heliodromus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2013, 04:30:30 pm »

As far as different mints goes, these (Sol & Mars bust reverses) are known from London, Ticinum and Aquileia in addition to Trier.

The London type (Sol) is described in:

"An Unpublished Nummus of Constantine I of the Mint of London" by Georges Gautier, published in Numismatic Chronicle 152 (1992)

The Ticinum and Aquileia coins are covered in:

"Folles sans marque emis par Consatntin en Italie" by Pierre Bastien, published in Schweizer Munzblatter 24 (1974)

The Mars type from Aquileia also occurs with a spectacular helmetted obverse bust with Constantine holding plumbata (throwing spears) - HD Rauch 80 # 266, Berlin

Other than different mints, there are also left facing mars reverses from Trier (listed in Cohen, but not in RIC) - Numis Lanz 132 # 522

There are also coins from Trier issued c.312-313 at a post-reduction weight of 1/96lb whose style is significantly different than the more common pre-reduction ones. I don't believe these have been published.

Ben

quadrans · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06, 2013, 12:33:13 am »

Thank you very much Ben .

Best regards
Joe

leetoone · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2013, 05:33:53 pm »

Ben

Do we have any known examples of reduced weight examples?

Lee

Heliodromus · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2013, 05:54:03 pm »

Hi Lee,
Yes - Trier also issued the Mars/Sol bust types at the reduced weight standard (quite easy to identify based on style alone), but as far as I'm aware they were the only mint to do so.

Ben

leetoone · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2013, 06:00:48 pm »

I'm struggling to find any published or online examples of clearly reduced weight/flan size coins of either type

leetoone · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2013, 03:45:00 am »

Thanks Ben

They both clearly look like reduced examples. Interesting that RIC 6 alludes to the reduced weight issue but then omits them from RIC 7. Similar to the unsatisfactory presentation of the left star issue of London that should also be broken down into two different size/weight standards.

Cheers

Lee

Nikko · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2013, 06:51:21 am »

Quote from: leetoone on October 26, 2013, 06:00:48 pm

I'm struggling to find any published or online examples of clearly reduced weight/flan size coins of either type

Here a perfect comparison

leetoone · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2013, 02:20:01 pm »

Perfect Nicola

Where did those images come from?

Lee

Nikko · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2013, 02:38:05 pm »

From the auction "Idra" (07/12/2008) by Thesaurus auction house.

quadrans · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2013, 02:04:04 am »

Hi Ben, Lee, and Niko thanks this nice conversation ..

,

it was really interesting.

Niko your comment and cited examples are perfect.

Best regards
Joe

Randygeki(h2) · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2013, 01:19:52 am »

Excellent coin!

Christopher H2 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2013, 06:25:57 am »

It was a true pleasure reading through this thread. So many great pictures. Awesome coin quadrans!

quadrans · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:55:37 pm »

Thank you very much "Christopher H2"

regards

Q.

Nikko · « **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2013, 10:36:37 am »

A really nice specimen claerly from the unlisted issue.

20 mm x 2,99 grams.

quadrans · « **Reply #17 on:** November 25, 2013, 12:51:46 pm »

Hi Nikko I agree it is a very nice specimen and very rare ...

C ongrats

Q.

Nikko · « **Reply #18 on:** November 25, 2013, 01:20:21 pm »

Quote from: quadrans on November 25, 2013, 12:51:46 pm

Hi Nikko I agree it is a very nice specimen and very rare ...

C ongrats

Q.

Hi Quadrans, i'm not really sure that this reduced issue is very rare. Maybe if we pay attention, we could be able to find more examples.
Best regards,
Nicola

PS
I'm not the owner of this nice coin

stlnats · « **Reply #19 on:** November 25, 2013, 01:44:44 pm »

Quote from: Nikko on November 25, 2013, 10:36:37 am

A really nice specimen claerly from the unlisted issue.

20 mm x 2,99 grams.

Very pretty example with an interesting image of Mars. Really enjoy seeing such nice examples of this series. Congrats!

quadrans · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2013, 10:36:42 pm »

Hi Nikko and stlnats

Thanks your comments,..
Regards
Q.

gordian_guy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2014, 08:00:54 am »

I don't collect Constantinian coins any longer but, but still have a lot of them in my collection. This was an interesting thread. Thanks for all the information. Congius's second listed paper by Bastien was easy to find:

http://retro.seals.ch/digbib/view?rid=smb-001:1973-1977:23-27::712

I still enjoy reading about these coins.

c.rhodes

quadrans · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2014, 09:28:55 am »

Thank you c.rhodes

Best regards
Q.

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