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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2014, 08:02:53 am »
Beautiful coin Alberto !!!

 Congratulation ..
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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2014, 08:10:45 am »
Thanks Joe.

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Julia Titi Denarius
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2014, 11:20:26 am »
Hello everyone,

I've crossed the Rubicone and purchased a denarius of Titus' daughter.

These coins are far from rare (you can easily find them either in auction and in retail) nonetheless they are expensive and they have always been (Cohen gave a 30 Gold Francs value in 1800, Seaby in the sixties 480 GB pounds!).

Well, now I'm pleased to have finally added one nice example to my collection.

Kind regards

Alberto


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Julia Titi Denarius
« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2014, 02:58:19 pm »
Hello everyone,

I've crossed the Rubicone and purchased a denarius of Titus' daughter.

These coins are far from rare (you can easily find them either in auction and in retail) nonetheless they are expensive and they have always been (Cohen gave a 30 Gold Francs value in 1800, Seaby in the sixties 480 GB pounds!).

Well, now I'm pleased to have finally added one nice example to my collection.

Kind regards

Alberto


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And it appears that she looks just like him!! Beautiful coin of a sugly lady!

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2014, 06:47:31 pm »
Or she was made to look like him by the engravers. But it's a lovely coin either way.
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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Julia Titi Denarius
« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2014, 07:03:23 pm »
These coins are far from rare (you can easily find them either in auction and in retail) nonetheless they are expensive and they have always been (Cohen gave a 30 Gold Francs value in 1800, Seaby in the sixties 480 GB pounds!).

Yes, Julia Titi is not a great rarity, if you have the money you can pick one up fairly readily as Alberto says, but on the other hand her denarii are not common either.

My comment on a specimen Harlan Berk had recently:

"Scarcer than the "C2" rating in the new RIC would appear to indicate: only eight specimens in Reka Devnia hoard, plus four other denarii of Julia Titi with other types, compared to 431 denarii of Titus and, for example, 47 denarii of Otho in the same hoard!"

So Julia Titi is about 35 times as rare as Titus on denarii, and about four times rarer than Otho.
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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #156 on: March 27, 2014, 04:31:14 am »
Thanks Curtis for your note and everybody else for kind comments.

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #157 on: March 27, 2014, 06:35:38 am »
Here's my fine Titi.
And a nice Minerva of a lover.

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Hello everyone.

The series of the Secular Games is by far my favorite of all and my greatest aspiration as a collector would be to complete it.

Unfortunately the coins in AE, although classified as "C" (= common) by the authors of RIC, are actually quite rare, with the notable exception of the as RIC 623, the only one meant to circulate throughout the empire.

The dupondius RIC 618, which has the same reverse of the as mentioned above, is much rarer: it is missing in Cohen, BMCRE, RIC first edition, WW (the example posted is a RIC 625 wrongly referenced) and acsearch. I found only another example in the CNG archives.

I am therefore very excited to add to my collection this specimen, worn but still perfectly readable.

Kind regards

Alberto


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #159 on: April 03, 2014, 04:12:00 am »
Wonderful and rare addition Alberto!  +++

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #160 on: April 03, 2014, 04:39:01 am »
Wonderful and rare addition Alberto!  +++

Thanks Dafnis.

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Rare As of Domitian COS VI
« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2014, 10:07:35 am »
Hello everyone.

The coins of Domitian bearing his 6th consulship were issued in 79 A D. It's still uncertain whether they were struck before or after the death of Vespasian.

The editors of RIC last edition have assigned some coins to the reign of Vespasian and other to the reign of Titus, on the ground of style.

They are all very rare, in any case.

This interesting As, with Victory on reverse, is supposed to belong to the reign of Titus.

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Alberto

edit 4/10: The previous picture was too dark, I've uploaded a better one.

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #162 on: April 09, 2014, 01:52:23 pm »
Hello everyone.

Today I've added a Vespasian As struck in Lugdunum with a nice eagle on reverse.

Kind regards


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Rare Titus Sestertius and Domitian dupondius
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2014, 01:21:22 pm »
Hello everyone.

Two additions today:

- a scarce Titus sestertius with Victory on reverse, belonging to the IVDAEA CAPTA issue, worn but fully readable;

- a very rare example (missing in major collections) of the first issue of the common Virtus reverse. It has a stylish portrait with a very nice aegis.

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Alberto


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Titus denarius and Domitia cistophorus
« Reply #164 on: April 18, 2014, 02:56:28 pm »
Hello everyone,

I've found two new coins in my Easter egg. ;)

First is a common but nicely toned denarius of Titus.

The second is a milestone in my collection: my first coin of Domitia struck in Rome (though meant to circulate in the East).

The coin is quite alike my Julia Titi denarius: similar portrait and identical reverse with Venus, yet much bigger.

Happy Easter to you all

Alberto


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #165 on: April 23, 2014, 09:15:52 am »
Hello everyone,

today I've added a Vespasian didrachm, struck in Caesarea Eusebia (Cappadocia), depicting Titus in military dress on reverse.

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Alberto

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2014, 10:24:57 am »
Thanks David.

I will hopefully be able to find also the type with Domitian on reverse (RPC 1651 - 1653).

Alberto

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2014, 04:57:44 pm »
Hello everyone,
today I've added a Vespasian didrachm, struck in Caesarea Eusebia (Cappadocia), depicting Titus in military dress on reverse.
Kind regards
Alberto

Excellent coin and very hard to come by!

Unlike my example, yours is beautifully centered with full legend. Yours also has the full ETOYC Θ rather than the abbreviation ET Θ in exergue.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-98231

I do wonder though, your description dates your coin to 76/77, wouldn't Vespasian's RY 9 be dated 77/78?


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2014, 05:34:39 pm »

Excellent coin and very hard to come by!

Unlike my example, yours is beautifully centered with full legend. Yours also has the full ETOYC Θ rather than the abbreviation ET Θ in exergue.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-98231

I do wonder though, your description dates your coin to 76/77, wouldn't Vespasian's RY 9 be dated 77/78?


Nemo

Thanks Nemo; actually I wanted this coin since I saw yours!

As for the year I've checked again RPC: it states year 9 = 76-77 (see pages 9 and 241).

Kind regards

Alberto

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #169 on: April 25, 2014, 08:57:59 pm »

As for the year I've checked again RPC: it states year 9 = 76-77 (see pages 9 and 241).

Kind regards

Alberto

Thanks Alberto.  

Obviously I misunderstand how regnal years are calculated. Vespasian was proclaimed emperor in Alexandria on July 1, 69, how does year 9 equal 76-77? I'm sure this is painfully obvious but I don't see it.

Thanks,
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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #170 on: April 26, 2014, 06:24:22 am »


Obviously I misunderstand how regnal years are calculated. Vespasian was proclaimed emperor in Alexandria on July 1, 69, how does year 9 equal 76-77? I'm sure this is painfully obvious but I don't see it.

Thanks,
Nemo

69 A.D. is counted twice:

Year 1: 69
Year 2: 69-70
Year 3: 70-71

and so on.

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Re: Flavian gallery restarted - Vespasian Didrachm with Titus on reverse
« Reply #171 on: April 26, 2014, 07:02:15 pm »
69 A.D. is counted twice:

Year 1: 69
Year 2: 69-70
Year 3: 70-71

and so on.

Alberto

Interesting Alberto.

  I found a good explanation for this in an article written by David Vagi.  He explains that the regnal years at Alexandria began on August 29 of each year and continued through August 28 of the following year. In some cases two regnal years are counted in the same calendar year, for example Vespasian in 69. The first regnal year is counted for the portion of time he ruled in 69 till August 28 and his second year started August 29, 69 into 70.

Those nutty provincials!

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Hello everyone,

when I started collecting roman coins I had only an old handbook written by Francesco Gnecchi, an italian collector and numismatist well known for his work about medallions.

His main advice for the new collectors was: rarity comes first, as some coin can show up only once in a lifetime, while common coins can always be found, it's only a matter of price.

I always stick to it (it's a bit out of fashion, I know), and I'm very proud to share these great rarities,

Actually only RIC 306 is a new purchase, but I've decided two upload them both, since they share the same obverse die.

I know of a third example of RIC 301, a fantastic coin sold by NAC some years ago, while RIC 306 could be the second known.

Kind regards

Alberto


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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #173 on: April 28, 2014, 08:23:55 pm »
A nice pair of sestertii!

RIC 306: the specimen described and illustrated by RIC is in Copenhagen. What made this coin unique, however, was only the obverse legend variety, writing DOMITIAN rather than DOMITIANVS. The rev. type is much more interesting than that minor obverse legend variety! The type of Victory holding a cornucopia occurs only on sestertii of Titus and of Domitian as Caesar in 80-81 AD, nowhere else in the Roman coinage. There may be only two such reverse dies, yours with legend VICTORIA AVG, known for Titus (RIC 179-80, obv. head r. or l.) and Domitian (RIC 305-6, DOMITIANVS or DOMITIAN in obv. legend). The second variety has legend VICTORIA AVGVST, so far known only for Titus (RIC 182). According to RIC 181, there is a third variety with legend VICTORIA AVG, Victory holding a cornucopia but not leaning on a column, attested by coins in Berlin and Vienna. But are these coins correctly reported? Might they not be from the same known VICTORIA AVG die, but with the column worn away or overlooked? I can't fully believe in the existence of this third variety until I actually see such a coin; a shame RIC didn't illustrate this variety!

RIC 301: Your specimen is important for confirming that Victory indeed holds her expected wreath in her r. hand. The specimen RIC illustrates, from the BM photofile, seems to show a wreath, but it is somewhat tooled. The NAC coin that you mention, however, NAC 33, 2006, lot 464, seems to show Victory holding a flower rather than a wreath. A syncretic deity combining Victory and Spes, NAC comments, and this interpretation was accepted in RIC's footnote on the coin, p. 216, note 47. However, your coin, clearly not tooled, is from the same dies as the other two, and shows Victory holding her normal wreath! It must be just a slight doublestrike, also visible in the S of S C, which has deformed the wreath on the NAC coin, and made the remains look like a flower. Here is that NAC coin, followed by Alberto's:
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Re: Flavian gallery restarted
« Reply #174 on: April 29, 2014, 03:12:49 am »
Thanks Curtis for the much interesting additional notes.

Alberto

 

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