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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2012, 04:27:54 pm »

... I think that centuries of Christianity and/or perhaps modern psychology has created an overlay that the creative copyist -even a very respectful one- can hardly avoid.

Interesting observation...... the eyebrows on these modern creations speak to this point.
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2012, 01:45:42 am »

I do not think that it is a serious art, just a skillful handicraft.
There is an enormous distance between peace of high art of ancient sculptor and modern copyist.
It seems that one can even explain why these medaillons look "kitchy": they are too perfect to be true. 
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2012, 01:54:05 am »

The word Kitsch doesn't have quite so negative a connotation as I see it used now. I don't see them as being original but they're well-made and I wish the creator success. I myself would prefer a framed high-quality photograph of a genuine ancient coin to display.
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2012, 07:40:02 am »

The first one, with the facing portrait, does not appeal to me at all.  Apollo looks a bit evil.  I think the others are more attractive. 
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2012, 10:37:32 am »

The first one, with the facing portrait, does not appeal to me at all.  Apollo looks a bit evil.  I think the others are more attractive. 

I agree with Joe.  Her craft has certainly improved with the latter pieces, if they are indeed chronological. 

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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2012, 06:00:49 pm »

When I think of "kitschy", pink flamingos come to mind. Well crafted imitations seems more appropriate here. Not as good as the originals nor do they improve upon them, but well executed.
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2012, 02:09:58 pm »

I also admire the craftsmanship in making these. They obviously owe a lot to the originals but there is quite a bit of interpretation involved if only because in expanding these from about one inch to ten involves a 100-fold increase in the surface area that the artist has to define and this imposes what I think are modern ideas on ancient one.

For instance Hadrian, the remote and imposing figure on the coin, would push you off the Tarpeian Rock personally if he suspected you were any threat to his Imperium. Ruthlessness was a quality the Romans admired in their rulers. Today no leader would want to appear this way (tough, always - ruthless, no). In the coin adaptation Hadrian is more like "Uncle Had", the amiable unshaven bloke who sits around the house in his undershirt with a beer in hand.

I exaggerate a bit and I don't mean to criticize her efforts, only to point out that it is perhaps futile to really re-create the past.

In the same vein, Herakleides' androgynous Apollo reappears to me as a female figure- kind of a modern woman with a "What's in it for me?" look in her eyes. Joe says that he finds her/him kind of "evil". But, hey, that's art. It is all in the eyes of the beholder.

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