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« on: October 10, 2012, 02:24:48 pm »

I have no idea if this coin is old, fake, tourist or what have you but it's certainly interesting!

One side is a cross with what I think is a rose in the middle?

However, the other one looks like a pretty scary fish!

Any help is greatly apprechiated...







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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 02:36:06 pm »

Republic of Venice?  Maybe a winged Lion? or not...
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 02:44:29 pm »

I'm sorry, my pictures are rubbish but from what I can see here it's a fish with lots of spikes on its back and a normal fish tail...there may be something else below it but I'm unsure.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 02:52:07 pm »

Can you make out any of the letter's around the outside?  Looks like a post medieval jeton.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 02:58:05 pm »

I can't get enough of the letters to make it out...just OBHE?
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 03:00:30 pm »

I definitely see the resemblance to a Jeton in the cross - it's almost identical to one on Google but I cannot find a fish...could this be a regional variation?
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 03:01:04 pm »

There is one on ebay right now but they don't give any identification.  Try searching for "Fish Cross" in coins and paper money.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2012, 03:04:15 pm »

Here are his images, should help with the legends...
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2012, 03:08:10 pm »

Superb Jay, that's my coin  Grin Now to work out that legend...
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2012, 03:26:24 pm »

It's a French Jeton.

The obverse reads AVE MARIA GRACIA
The reverse around the edge says +-A-V-E

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 03:29:51 pm »

Mystery solved, thanks chaps!

Here's a link all about it...

http://www.arminius-numismatics.com/coppermine1414/cpg1414/displayimage.php?album=164&pos=6
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 03:40:47 pm »

That link is probably closer than what I said. I looked at just the second coin because the legend was sharper. Now I see they are different.

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 04:13:39 pm »

Mystery solved, thanks chaps!

Thanks for using my data! Here's a link all about it...

http://www.arminius-numismatics.com/coppermine1414/cpg1414/displayimage.php?album=164&pos=6

some more info about my specimen:

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France, anonymous Jeton / Reckoning Counter, Tournai (?), ca. 1300-1500 AD.,
Jeton (24-25 mm / 2,86 g), type: jeton de compte au dauphin, brass, about coin alignment ↑↓ (160°),
Obv.: + LE * NOBLE * ET * FIER , dolphin recumbent or jumping left.
Rev.: + A + / + V + / + E + / + G + , in the angles of a decorated floral cross with outward ornaments - croix feuillue dans un quadrilobe.
LT. / Rou. 1296 var.

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 04:29:02 pm »

 That is one ugly dauphin! It looks more like a dragon to me.
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