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« on: March 22, 2012, 12:07:08 pm »

Take a look at this!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-17480016
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 12:38:37 pm »

More than 30,000!
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 01:21:22 pm »

Thanks for the link.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 01:44:05 pm »

Incredible news! For those interested, the coins were found in the foundations of a hotel in Beau Street, a stone's throw away from the Roman Baths.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 02:06:09 pm »

I love when stuff like this happens.

I wonder how many other undiscovered hoards (and other antiquities) there are just waiting patiently to be unearthed?

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 04:03:48 pm »

I wish I had the job of cataloging them. I'd take a pay cut to do that kind of work.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 05:34:40 pm »

Surprising. What was happening so that 30K of coins was forgotten.  Where's my time machine?
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2012, 05:42:23 am »

Wow, and yet so typical, that what is an obvious place to look for a votive offering/coin stash was the last place to be looked, rather than wandering around a field in a remote part of Britain with a metal detector.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2012, 05:52:39 am »

Surprising. What was happening so that 30K of coins was forgotten.  Where's my time machine?


That's my question.  The article mentioned a hoard found by a guy with a metal detector; what period did those coins come from?
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2012, 06:10:56 am »

Here is some info on the Frome Hoard, found in the same county:

The Frome Hoard is a hoard of 52,503 Roman coins found in April 2010 by metal detectorist Dave Crisp near Frome in Somerset, England. The coins were contained in a ceramic pot 45 cm (18 in) in diameter, and date from AD 253 to 305. Most of the coins are made from debased silver or bronze. The hoard is one of the largest ever found in Britain, and is also important as it contains the largest group ever found of coins issued during the reign of Carausius, who ruled Britain independently from 286 to 293 and was the first Roman emperor to strike coins in Britain.

Sam Moorhead of the Portable Antiquities Scheme suggests that in this case the pot was so large and fragile that it could not have been easily recovered without breaking it, and so the hoard may represent communal votive offerings to the gods.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 07:09:55 am »

Here is some info on the Frome Hoard, found in the same county:

Being pedantic, not the same county, but very close to one another.  I actually went to school in Bath, when it was in a county called Avon, and with boundary changes it is now classed under the horrific county name of BANES (Bath And North East Somerset), which is a different county to Somerset, where Frome is situated.

I only wish I had thought of looking for coins when I was at school!  Sad

And I think that one of the problems with finding hoards like this in Bath, is that the city is extremely restrictive on new builds.  So property is excessively expensive, mainly made of Bath stone, and has been made to last.  The chances are that there are lots of coins buried there, but in a densely populated area with little new building work, or buildings being demolished for new properties to be built, many hoards will probably never have the chance to see the light of day.

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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2012, 07:28:16 am »

Old Gregorian by any chance.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2012, 07:51:55 am »

Apparently the hoard is fused together so won't be fully identifieable until they are "un-fused", although at least one coin appears to be of Philip I.

More info: http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/bath-coin-hoard.htm
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2012, 08:39:36 am »

Old Gregorian by any chance.

King Edward VI, founded in 1552.  I wasn't at the founding, although I think some of the teachers may have been Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2012, 09:03:57 am »

Super-cool find, but how come the hoards never seem to be Sestertii or 1st-2nd century stuff?
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2012, 09:20:09 am »

Super-cool find, but how come the hoards never seem to be Sestertii or 1st-2nd century stuff?

They do....for example....

http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/rhagor/galleries/llanvaches

http://newporthistorysociety.wordpress.com/sheriffhales-roman-coin-hoard/
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2012, 09:25:21 am »

Wow, very cool!  The second didn't survive so well.  It could use casata's cleaning help!
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2012, 11:03:43 am »


The Didcot hoard is the one that makes me salivate whenever I see it in the Ashmolean..

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_objects/cm/d/didcot_hoard.aspx
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2012, 11:30:43 am »

Super-cool find, but how come the hoards never seem to be Sestertii or 1st-2nd century stuff?

Here's my own, personal, mantlepiece, hoard of 2nd century sestertii, and the story of its find in the link:
http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Hoards.html#Upchurch

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2012, 05:27:05 pm »


Here's my own, personal, mantlepiece, hoard of 2nd century sestertii, and the story of its find in the link:
http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Hoards.html#Upchurch


A really great and interesting find, and a great and interesting article!
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2012, 10:40:40 pm »

And I get excited when I find a dime in the parking lot at the mall.........
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2012, 04:40:28 pm »

I wish I had the job of cataloging them. I'd take a pay cut to do that kind of work.

I work at the Roman Baths museum cataloging coins from other hoards and from their collections! Some of the coins I have handled and see would boggle belief!

I knew about this hoard before the public; its really interesting - donate everyone!
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 03:50:45 am »

Quote from: Fides on March 27, 2012, 04:40:28 pm

I work at the Roman Baths museum cataloging coins from other hoards and from their collections! Some of the coins I have handled and see would boggle belief!

I knew about this hoard before the public; its really interesting - donate everyone!

Since the coins were found by archaeologists, and thus would have no claim under the Treasure Act, why is the museum having to purchase them? Or is it just the cost of displaying them?
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 04:36:26 am »

The find *has* been declared as treasure, as this item of the law does apply to archaeologists as well as to members of the public. To buy them back from the Crown the Baths needs to raise £150,000. I don't agree with this practice, and am of the opinion that the museum should be given the hoard as a matter of course - it was found metres from the museum's front door after all! They're currently being conserved at the BM and should be complete soon, so in the meantime we need to raise the cash to bring them home!

As well as that, the museum doesn't make enough money from ticket sales to properly store the coins. This might appear surprising given the cost of one ticket; most of the money made goes to the maintenance of the buildings and objects already there, which is no mean feat. As with all museums, for every one item on display there are dozens in the stores that have to be properly archived and conserved, and this swallows up a vast amount of cash.

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2012, 04:37:38 am »

http://www.romanbaths.co.uk/whats_on/beau_street_hoard.aspx
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