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« on: October 22, 2011, 02:50:06 am »

Questa moneta di Nerone la trovo come Ric 522 e anche al 596 Huh. Quale è corretto? Che differenze ci sono fra queste 2 classificazioni?
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 03:17:53 am »

The reverse is totally different.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 03:27:44 am »


RIC 518 or 596. 518 is from issue IV and
596 from issue V.

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 03:28:19 am »

The reverse is totally different.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 03:32:29 am »


RIC 518 or 596. 518 is from issue IV and
596 from issue V.

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 03:41:05 am »

Reverse for 522 is Victory. For 596 Securitas.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 03:45:49 am »

Reverse for 522 is Victory. For 596 Securitas.
But what's the differents from 518 and 596? (522 is my error)
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 04:25:46 am »


518 was struck c. 66 AD and
596 was struck c. 67 AD, with
no change of elements.

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 04:34:56 am »


518 was struck c. 66 AD and
596 was struck c. 67 AD, with
no change of elements.

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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 05:30:05 am »

If I read correctly ( though I think identifying LRBs is leading me to  Cool  )  both 518 and 596 carry the SC left and right . Of course it could be a misinterpretation of mine.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 12:16:33 am »

Mi sembra strano che non ci siano elementi che distinguino le due emissioni Huh, forse il peso?
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 12:57:22 am »


I think here was used the method of die combinations.
Same obverse die was used with an other reverse die.
And obverse dies of different issues were not mixed.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 01:04:45 am »

Sono d'accordo con benito, mi sembra che tanto la 518 che la 596 riportino la SC ai lati della SECVRITAS e non in esergo come nella moneta postata.
Visto che le due emissioni sono state fatte in data diversa come dice il bravo Pekka non potrebbe essere un errore del RIC? Una avrebbe la SC nel campo sinistro e destro, l'altra in esergo.
IL RIC le da tutte e due con SC ai lati.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 02:50:39 am »

Sono d'accordo con benito, mi sembra che tanto la 518 che la 596 riportino la SC ai lati della SECVRITAS e non in esergo come nella moneta postata.
Visto che le due emissioni sono state fatte in data diversa come dice il bravo Pekka non potrebbe essere un errore del RIC? Una avrebbe la SC nel campo sinistro e destro, l'altra in esergo.
IL RIC le da tutte e due con SC ai lati.

E allora come la classifico? Qualcuno ha il Banti?
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 03:22:09 am »

scusate
ma la tua moneta ha TRP II se non erro

secondo me la differenza sta li , una avra ` TRP I e l altra TRP II
oppure TRP II e TRP III

e da li capisci se e` 66 o 67 ad

di solito la datazione di una moneta si fa` in base alle date consolari date dalle varie cariche , tribunus populi TRP , pontifex maximus PP , imperator IMP e consul COS

se avete gia tenuto conto di questo allora scartate il messaggio
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 03:29:37 am »

Come si legge nella moneta postata la legenda del dritto manifesta solo TRP PP  d'altronde il RIC da per entrambi la medesima legenda del dritto.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 03:46:26 am »

BURN  RIC  angel
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 03:55:46 am »

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ma la tua moneta ha TRP II se non erro

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ERRAS.TR P PP. Sed errare humanum est.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 04:33:49 am »

ok chiedo scusa

ma allora probabilmente e` la stessa moneta , a meno che non si distingua stilisticamente.

capita che anche in altre edizioni ci siano 2 monete uguali ma con numeri di ric diversi

capita spesso per valentiniano
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 06:39:40 am »

Resta il fatto che sul Ric non è presente una moneta con quella legenda al dritto e con la SECVRITAS al rovescio con SC in esergo!
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2011, 07:05:55 am »

Resta il fatto che sul Ric non è presente una moneta con quella legenda al dritto e con la SECVRITAS al rovescio con SC in esergo!
Not in Ric? Huh
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 07:40:57 am »

BURN RIC. You can see two similar coins in wildwinds,one I own and yours,that makes four. Should be in RIC as R4.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2011, 07:51:51 am »

Misprint in RIC: the description for RIC 595-599 should read "S C in exergue".

If you check the WNC and BMC numbers cited there, you will find that all coins cited in fact have S C in exergue, not in field.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 10:45:34 am »

Misprint in RIC: the description for RIC 595-599 should read "S C in exergue".

If you check the WNC and BMC numbers cited there, you will find that all coins cited in fact have S C in exergue, not in field.
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