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Offline Jaimelai

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Unknown Greek?
« on: January 16, 2011, 10:00:20 pm »
Well, unknown to me - maybe someone has some ideas.

Obv:  Laureate Zeus right?

Rev:  6-rayed star,   :Greek_Mu: - [ :Greek_Omicron: :Greek_Omega:?] -  :Greek_Iota: :Greek_Alpha::GreeK_Sigma:  :Greek_epsilon: - [ :Greek_Omega:?] -  :Greek_Nu:  between rays

20 mm, 5.89 gm

Bracket letters are guesses - other letters pretty clear.

Any comments or ideas to city appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 09:55:04 am »
 
Not the same coin (since this larger bronze coin with not six rays but eight shows not Zeus but Zeus Ammon), but still worth comparing; your coin could read :Greek_Theta::Greek_Upsilon::Greek_Mu: + the name of a magistrate.  Even this larger bronze issue is scarce; if your coin is from Thymbra too, it's unlisted in Isegrim.

http://www.asiaminorcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=92
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=447247
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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 10:38:02 am »

Maybe it is:  :Greek_Theta: :Greek_Upsilon_2: :Greek_Mu: :Greek_Beta: :Greek_Rho: :Greek_Iota: :Greek_Alpha: :GreeK_Sigma: ?

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 11:05:48 am »
There are several coins with a similar atar reverse.  I'm not sure I'd focus soley on thymbra.

What about Moesia?

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 01:48:30 pm »
Thanks for the replies so far.   I was looking at the Zeus Ammon from Thymbra too, but I am not even sure mine is Zeus at this point.   The "M" and "N" are clear - more so in hand than in my picture.  So are the "IA" and the " :GreeK_Sigma: :Greek_epsilon:" although I can see where the ":Greek_epsilon:" could be an " :Greek_Xi:" as the left side of the letter is not there and I am going by an impression in the patina.   Maybe I'll re-photograph with attention to each letter when I get home tonight. 

Any ideas as to why a six rayed star?   I have two other rayed coins (8 and 9 rayed from Kolone) and they appear to be linked to the value with the 9 rayed a smaller coin than the 8 rayed.  I haven't found many examples of six rays.

Thanks again,

Joe

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 02:00:26 am »
I made a composite of the different letters - still not the best shots, but a little better than the whole.  Any more ideas?




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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 06:55:38 am »
Could it be ΜΟΡΙΑΣΕΩΝ? There is a coin like this, but 12 mm and 7,2 g, in Katalog Münzauktion Essen 64 (1992) no. 47, acquired by P. R. Franke. He attributes it to an until now unknown thraco-macedonian tribe, the Moriaseis, which coul be mentioned in Plin. nat. 4,41 as Moriseni. He dates it to the time of Philip V and Perseus. His article about the coin: P. R. Franke, ΜΟΡΙΑΣΕΙΣ. Die erste Münze eines bislang unbekannten thrakisch-makedonischen Stammes, in: V. Spinoi - L. Munteanu, Miscellanea numismatica antiquitatis in honorem septagenarii magistri Virgilii Mihailescu, Bucarest 2008, p. 67f.

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 09:26:41 am »
Well, that is what it looks like to me!   Thank you very much!  Any ideas how I can get that article?   :)

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 11:14:14 am »
I can send you a scan, but just in 2 or 3 weeks.

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Re: Unknown Greek?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 01:13:22 pm »
That would be great!   I'll also try the inter-library loan at my local library, but anything would be welcomed! 

 

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