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« Reply #200 on: May 02, 2012, 11:54:43 am »

#183

A new obv. die

Caracalla & Julia Domna, AD 198-217
AE 27, 11.09g, 27.01mm, 0°
struck under Umbrius Tereventinus
obv. AVT KM CEVH ALEZANDROC IOVLI(sic!) MAMAIA.
        Confronted busts of Caracalla, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r., and Julia
        Domna, draped annd wearing stephane, l.
rev. HG OVM.TEREBENTI[NOV MARKIANOPO]LI / TWN (1st OV ligate, 2nd
       too?)
       Demeter, in long garment and mantle, without veil, stg. l., resting with raised l.
       hand on long burning torch and holding in r. hand grain-ears.
ref. a) not in AMNG:
          rev. AMNG I/1, 1077 (depiction)
                 AMNG I/1, 1076 (legend)
          obv. e.g. AMNG I/, 1079 var. (has IOVLIA)
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1823 var, (has IOVLIA)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2011):
          cf. No. 6.34.5.2 (has IOVLIA)
       d) not in Pfeiffer
coll. Hoeft

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« Reply #201 on: May 02, 2012, 12:09:21 pm »

Jochen,

Wouldn't it be good to cite and illustrate the CNG 2010 piece I referred to, since it was published two years before yours, is easily available in CNG Research, and confirms IOVLI in the obv. legend beyond possible doubt?
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« Reply #202 on: May 02, 2012, 01:16:23 pm »

#183 (2)

Here is the coin from CNG:

CNG electronic auction 238, lot 219

MOESIA INFERIOR, Marcianopolis. Severus Alexander, with Julia Mamaea. AD 222-235. Æ Pentassarion (27mm, 11.90 g, 1h). Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Severus Alexander right, vis-à-vis diademed and draped bust of Julia Mamaea left / Demeter standing left, holding grain ears and torch; E (denomination) to right. AMNG I 1077 var.; Hristova & Jekov 6.34.5.1; Varbanov 1832. Near VF, dark grayish-green patina, some roughness.

It's clearly IOVLI, not IOVLIA!

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« Reply #203 on: May 05, 2012, 04:47:25 am »

#184

A new rev. legend variant

Severus Alexander, AD 222-235
AE 25, 10.5g
struck under Tib. Julius Festus
obv. AV[T KM AVR CEVH] - ALEZANDROC
        Bust, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r.
rev. VP TIB IOVL FHCTOV MARKIANOPOL / ITWN (AR ligate)
       Eagle, with open wings stg. frontal on rod, head with wreath in beak erected l.
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1771
      c) Hristova7Jekov (2011) No. 6.32.1.13 var. (has in ex. TWN)
      b) not in Pfeiffer
taterthecat, E-Bay, May 2012

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« Reply #204 on: May 12, 2012, 11:41:37 am »

#185

A completely new type for Elagabal

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 16
obv. AVT KM AVRHLI - ANTWNEINOC]
        laureate head r.
rev. MARKIAN - OPOLITW / N
       Asklepios with snake-staff stg. frontal
ref. a) not in AMNG
       b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
       c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2011)
coll. Posa, German Numismatik Forum

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« Reply #205 on: November 29, 2012, 12:42:17 pm »

#186

A new die combination

Caracalla & Julia Domna, AD198-211
AE 27
struck under Quintilianus
obv. ANTWNINOC AVGOVCTOC
        beneath in 2 lines IOVLIA / DOMNA
rev. VP KVNTILIANOV MARKIANOPOLEI
       in l. and r. field T - WN
       Homonoia (Concordia) in long garment and mantle stg. l., holding cornucopiae in l. arm
       and patera in extended r. hand over burning altar
       in l. field E (revers), for Pentassarion
ref.  a) AMNG I/1, 677 (as ex.#1, Leake)
        b) not in Hristova/Jekov (2011):
            rev. p. 89, No. 6.19.36.1 (same die)
            obv. p. 90, No. 6.19.36.1 (same die)
       c) not in Varbanov (engl.)
       d) not in coll. Pfeiffer
coll rick2, Forum Ancient Coins

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« Reply #206 on: January 03, 2013, 04:10:22 am »

#187

A new rev. variant

Caracalla & Julia Domna, AD 198-211
AE 27, 13.80g
struck under Quintilianus
obv. ANTWNINOC AVGOVCTOC IOVLIA DOMNA
        confronted busts of Carcalla, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r., and Julia Domna,
        draped, l.
rev. VP KVNTILIAN - OV MARKIANOPOLIT
       in l. and r. field W - N
       Homonoia (Concordia) in long garment and mantle, wearing kalathos, stg. l.,
       holding cornucopiae in  l. arm and patera in extended r. hand over burning altar
       in r. field E (revers), for Pentassarion
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 677 var. (E in l. field)
      b) Hristova/Jekov (2011) No. 6.19.36.4 (different rev. legend break, E in l. field)
      c) Varbanov (engl.) 1031
      d) not in coll. Pfeiffer
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« Reply #207 on: February 07, 2013, 11:54:48 am »

#188

A new type for Severus Alexander

Severus Alexander, AD 222-235
AE 19, 4.41, 19.17mm, 180°
obv. AVT KM AVR CEV ALEZANDROC
        laureate head r.
rev. MARKIANOP - OLITWN (palm branch)
       Tyche, wearing kaltos, stg. l., holding cornucopiae in l. arm and in extended r. hand rudder set on globe
ref. a) not in AMNG
       b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
       c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2011)
       d) Pfeiffer II, 595, 20 (same dies, palm branch not visible)
very rare, about VF
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« Reply #208 on: March 07, 2013, 08:35:46 am »

#189

A new type for Gordian III

Gordian III & Serapis, AD 238-244
AE 27, 13.48g, 27.16mm, 180°
struck under Tullius Menophilus
obv.  AVT KM.ANT.GORDIANOC / AVG
        Confronted busts of Gordian III, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r., and Serapis,
        draped and wearing kalathos, l.
rev. VP MHNOFILOV M - ARKIANOPOLI
       in r. field one below the other T / W / N
       in lower l. field E
       Athena in long garment and mantle, wearing Corinthian helmet, stg. l., resting
       with raised l. hand on inverted spear and holding in extended r. hand owl
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1139, pl. XV, 22 (3 ex., Imhoof, Löbbecke, Paris)
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1963
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2012)
      d) Pfeiffer 678, 10
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« Reply #209 on: May 01, 2013, 08:28:31 am »

#190

A new die combination

Macrinus & Diadumenian, AD 217-218
AE 29, 10.58g
struck under Pontianus
obv. AVT K OPEL CEV MAKREINOC KM OPEL ANTWNEINOC.
        confronted heads of Macrinus, laureate, r., and Diadumenian, bare-headed, l.
rev. VP PONTIANOV MARKI - POLEIT / WN
       Zeus in himation enthroned l., resting with raised l. hand on sceptre and holding patera in extended r. hand
       in upper l. field E
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) not in Hristova/Jekov (2012):
           rev. 6.24.1.9 var. (different legend distribution)
           obv. e.g. 6.24.1.3 (Zeus stg.)
        c) not in Pfeiffer (2013)
        d) not in Megaw:
             rev. MAR 5.57c
         possibly unpublished
Bulgarian collection

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« Reply #210 on: October 25, 2014, 03:53:46 am »

#191

A correction

Today I've got a mail from Jan Bajer with the pic of a 2nd and better preserved coin of Markianopolis I #417

Gordian III & Serapis, AD 238-244
AE 26
struck under Tullius Menophilus
obv. AVT KM. below, ANTWNIOC GORDIANOC AVG
        Confronted busts of Gordian III, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r., and Serapis,
        draped and wearing kalathos, l.
rev. VP MHNOFILOV - MARKIANOPOL / ITW
       Hera in long garment in mantle, stg.l., holding grain ears in r. hand and resting with l.
       hand on sceptre
       in r. field reversed E
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
      c) Hristova/Jekov (2014) No. 6.37.3.3 corr.
coll. Jan Bajer

So it is not a patera in her extended r. hand but grain ears. Nevertheless I think it is Hera, because the sceptre is the appropriate attribute for the queen of heaven, much better than for Demeter (the other option).

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« Reply #211 on: December 02, 2014, 01:00:23 pm »

#192

A new type of the 3 Graces for Domna from Markianopolis

Moesia inferior, Markianopolis, Julia Domna, AD 193-211
AE 23, 7.58g
obv. IOVLIA D - OMNA CEB
       draped bust r.
rev. M - AR - KIAN - OPOL - I - TWN
      The 3 Graces, nude, in their usual arrangement, the middle one seen from behind, the 2
      others stg. facing, the left one looking r. and holding vase in lowered r. hand, the right one
      looking l. and holding in her lowered r. hand a vase as well
ref. a) not in AMNG:
          AMNG I/1, 604 (for the type only)
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.):
           cf. #888 (but Varbanov doesn't mention legend breaks)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2014):
          rev. No. 6.17.26.11 (depiction only, legend not listed)
          obv. No. 6.17.26.8
      d) not in Pfeiffer (2013)
coll. Hoja, German Forum

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« Reply #212 on: January 31, 2015, 12:47:10 pm »

#193

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 17, 2.87g, 16.5mm, 0°
obv. AVT K M AVR - ANTWNEINOC (NE ligate)
        laureate head r.
rev. MARKIANOPOLITW / N
       Lion advancing r.
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov (2014):
          rev. not listed
          obv. e.g. No. 6.26.53.2
      d) not in Pfeiffer (23013)
coll. Quadrans, Forum Ancient Coins

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« Reply #213 on: December 06, 2015, 01:17:52 pm »

#194

Macrinus 217-218
AE27, 10.0 g

obv: AVTK OPELLIOC CEVH. MAKREINOC

rev: VP PONTIANOV MAP-KIANOPOLEIT(WN) ligate letters in brackets

ref a) Not in AMNG/I
     b) Not in Hristova/Jekov 2014
         obv HJ 6.23.38.1
         rev HJ 6.23.38.2
     c) not in Pfeiffer (2013)

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« Reply #214 on: October 16, 2016, 08:34:51 am »

#195

Commodus, 177-192
AE16, 2.7 g

obv: AY.K.L.AY-KOMODOC

rev: MARKIANO-POLEITWN

obv Commodus laur, draped and cuir. bust right
rev Hermes bust right

ref: a) Varbanov 700
     b) not in AMNG/I -
     c) not in Pfeiffer (2013)

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« Reply #215 on: March 23, 2017, 04:44:46 pm »

Correction for AMNG 541 / Hristova/Jekov (2014) No.6.10.38.1 -- actually Commodus / Tyche Euposia (on whom see http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=25089.315)
Having just acquired one of these, I'd like to point out the small faintly-drawn baby Ploutos in the crook of this Tyche's left arm; congratulations, Jochen -- I think you own two of them!

http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/4320/
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-43469
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-15768
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-111365
http://www.coinproject.com/siteimages/589/589-1000-2-071.jpg
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« Reply #216 on: March 27, 2017, 07:33:13 am »

The child Ploutos is especially prominent on the die which was used for one specimen in Wildwinds (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/commodus/_markianopolis_AE21_Moushmov_366.jpg) as well as an ex-Lindgren specimen sold recently * (which apparently = the coinproject-specimen above):

    * http://agoraauctions.com/listing/viewdetail/850/0/archive
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« Reply #217 on: March 27, 2017, 08:36:45 am »

Hi archivum!

Thank you for your interesting post. I have actually overlooked it (and not only me!), but it is very difficult to recognize the baby. Not before you have pointed us to it!

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« Reply #218 on: March 31, 2017, 09:54:38 am »

For these various specimens I count at least five reverse dies, some of these likely copied from others; the held infant gets fainter with copying, but never quite vanishes. Based on lettering, etc., the WW-Lindgren reverse seems distinct from Hr-J 6.10.38.1-4; lacking access to that reverse die made it easier to miss baby Ploutos here.
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Just arrived, one more coin from the WW-Lindgren die; at just 20 mm / 5.9 g (diassarion-scale?), it's remarkable that this coin's depiction of Ploutos can hold up as well as it does.
[Edit: For comparison purposes -- see also the links in Reply #215 -- I'm attaching a rare Gordian III / Eirene with Ploutos from Hadrianopolis, Thrace, AE 27 9.47g, Varbanov 3781:]
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« Reply #219 on: April 15, 2017, 05:33:46 am »

Caracalla & Julia Domna 215
AE26, 11.9 g

obv: ANTWNINOC AVGOVCTOC IOVLIA DOMNA

rev: VP KVNITILIANOV MARKIANOPOLI / TW / N

ref a) Not in AMNG/I
     b) Not in Hristova/Jekov 2014
     c) Not in Varbanov
     d) not in Pfeiffer (2013)

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« Reply #220 on: April 21, 2017, 06:06:42 am »

To the coin of Gordian III from Hadrianopolis (reply #219 of Archivum):

A nice rev., showing the famous statue "Eirene and Ploutos" made by Kephisodotos (400-c.360 BC, father or uncle of Praxiteles).

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« Reply #221 on: May 06, 2017, 01:07:27 pm »

Joining Tyche Euposias from this mint for both Commodus and Caracalla (Reply #215-18, with additional links), I suggest that this reverse die for Septimius Severus features Tyche Euposia as well; it is apparently not represented in Varbanov or in Hristova-Jekov, although Hr-J 6.14.38.11 does approximate this reverse legend but then pictures a non-matching coin. As with Commodus' Tyche Euposia (Reply #218), it appears that the minuscule Ploutos was too hard to carve for some die-cutters. From Ken Dorney's recent auction, Septimius Severus, Markianopolis, AE 26, 9.74 g, Varbanov 809 (var.), laur. cuir. draped burst r., AY K L SEPTI SEYHROS P / Tyche Euposia stg. l. holding Ploutos and rudder, VI P'AYSTINIANOV MARKIANOPOLITWN (dealer's photo, circle added for Ploutos, and new photo, now that I have the coin):
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« Reply #222 on: May 06, 2017, 02:25:04 pm »

archivum, you have good eyes!

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« Reply #223 on: May 06, 2017, 02:44:17 pm »

Thanks, Jochen! Maybe now other strikes from this die will resurface, and we will know more of this aspect of Tyche. I myself am surprised Ploutos doesn't appear with Concordia/Homonoia on Rome's coins or Roman provincials, but no sign of that, so far.
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« Reply #224 on: May 06, 2017, 03:46:20 pm »

Wow!  Very interesting discovery Archivum!
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