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« on: November 23, 2010, 01:28:48 pm »

I have two questions about this coin:
First, I think that on this coin Julia Domna.
Secondly, this coin was not cleaned, has recently been found, so that the best way to clean and preserve, and not to damage the patina with him.
The maximum diameter of this coin is 18 millimeters, and weighs 2.9 grams, Mint in Siscia
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 01:34:04 pm »

Looks like legend FLAV MAX - FAVSTA AVG, so not Julia Domna.

Mechanical cleaning under the microscope is probably the only way to bring out the details while preseving the patina.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 02:52:36 pm »

I was a few days on the internet, so I could not thank you for your help.
Thanks for your help
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 10:35:56 am »

I cleaned the coin, mixed techniques, chemicals and more mechanical. I hope I succeeded.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 12:34:56 pm »

Shandorr,

Looks good.  What chemicals did you use and how did you use them?
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 01:37:47 pm »

Coin'd soaked cream "Melkfett mit Ringelblumen-Extrakt" (Dr Foster GmbH). Very greasy cream, half an hour after I'd washed in pure alcohol, and so would sediment on the coin much softened. Then I would remove it with a razor. This procedure would be repeated several times. then the coin would wash the alkali to neutralize the acid from alcohol. I use ash as a source of alkali. And finally smeared Turpentine oil.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 01:47:32 pm »

In a similar way, I cleaned this Celtic coin ring
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 01:53:15 pm »

Shandorr, what is melkfett?
 And what do you mean by 'acid from alcohol'?
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 01:56:29 pm »

Well, it must be butterfat, but I'd have to go the the dictionary for the other ingredient.  Pat L.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 02:00:47 pm »

The other ingredient is calendula, which I doubt is significant. Wikipedia says melkfett is 'bag balm' which is 8-hydroxyquinoline sulfate 0.3% in a petroleum jelly and lanolin base. In other words, soak coins in mild acid with grease! And acid comes from the balm rather than from alcohol.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 02:38:51 pm »

Yes you are absolutely right. The cream must be as oily (Vaseline is best) This cream is something like vaseline with marigold extract, but does not have to be just that. Alcohol has a mild acidity, and effectively remove fat with coins. But the sediment on a coin after the treatment is much easier to remove mechanically. The procedure is necessary to repeat several times. I mention the need to end the coin wash solution. I protect you it Turpentine oil.
Here's another example, but I ended up with a clean, Emperor Licinius
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 02:47:57 pm »

'Melkfett' is a skin emollient on the basis of Vaseline used at milking to protect the teats of cows or goats.

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 03:20:21 pm »

'Melkfett' is a skin emollient on the basis of Vaseline used at milking to protect the teats of cows or goats.

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The active ingredient for cleaning coins is apparently 8-hydroxyquinoline sulfate which is a chelating agent and is also slightly acidic.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2010, 08:29:39 pm »

Thanks to Jochen, I'll never forget what Melkfett is, whether or not I ever need any.  It is useful to learn graphically.  Pat L.
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