ID req. Medieval copper, hungarian ?

[Zaph0dd]

Hi there

Looking for a ID on this little copper,

18mm in diameter, about 1/2-3/4 mm thin, unable to provide a weight.

Obverse has a right facing crowned portrait, bearded and quite a miserable looking chap, some lettering but I cannot make out any of it for sure, style suggests perhaps 14-16th centuries ?

Reverse has 4 Crowns? with Lis? inter spaced in a cross design surrounded by a wreath?.

[Manzikert]

Hi

I'm pretty sure this is an issue of Philip II of Spain (definitely a miserable looking chap) for the Spanish Netherlands. The 'crowns' on the reverse are actually the 'briquets' or 'fire steels' from the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece.

Unfortunately I can't offer more than that as I have no references for this period.

Best wishes

Alan

[Zaph0dd]

Many thanks Alan,

With this info i've managed to track down a bunch from a auction sale, it appears that mine is average in appearnace for these crude things.

Its a Gigot of Philip II, Spanish Netherlands.

Lot 101
http://prestige.delcampe.net/page/main/action,catalog,Veilinghuis-Eeckhout-bvba,Veiling-Vente-Auction-4-Coins-Medals-Banknotes-1-2-May-2010,catalog,121,category,30954,0,Coins-Early-Modern-Period-Spaanse-Nederlanden-Pays-Bas-Espagnoles-Spanish-Netherlands-Filips-II-Philippe,language,E.html

http://images-02.delcampe-static.net/img_large/auction/000/088/880/291_001.jpg