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Offline Will Hooton

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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 04:11:52 pm »


My take is that the "experts" don't want to actually say that some one recently has made this fantasy peice.


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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 05:04:53 pm »
'Emperor' Caesar? Still, what can you expect from that rag?
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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 05:11:28 pm »
Humm, I don't understand how it's supposed to be worth £3000 instead of £100.

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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 05:41:18 pm »
Humm, I don't understand how it's supposed to be worth £3000 instead of £100.

Thats the thing. I wonder how the finds advisor to the BM arrived at that figure, for what amounts to an imitation?

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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 06:48:35 pm »
They say that the creator of the coin was illiterate and "not very bright" because of the misspelling of Egypt and the wrong portraiture, when in fact it is a widely accepted idea that the ancient engravers were not all literate and relied on the design of already existing coins to get the spelling right.

If the creator of this ancient forgery did not have an authentic example on hand to copy from, one would expect such errors to occur.

If you ask me the ancient forger in this case was a bright fellow who managed to carve an artistic die, resembling a design that he had presumably only seen before.
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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 06:53:36 pm »
Humm, I don't understand how it's supposed to be worth £3000 instead of £100.

£100 for that would be £99 too much -- let alone £3000!
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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 07:23:12 pm »
I think Mr Clements' study course will be shorter than anticipated!
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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 03:03:31 am »
They're right about one thing: the coin is cleary a terrible fake. Metal detector find or not, it looks like a modern product. Some sort of fantasy piece, rather than an ancient counterfeit. Lots of modern fakes are found with metal detectors. I'd be interested to know the identity of the "experts" who were consulted, particularly the one who pointed out that the portrait is of "Emperor Caesar"(!). I'd love to know why Sam Moorehead of the BM thinks this is even ancient, let alone unique. It looks like half the modern fake trash that's found among the lsitings of shady ebay sellers. Even just from the photo it is glaringly obvious it is a modern fake crappie. If this is the evaluation of the BM's national finds adviser for ancient coins, then perhaps the BM needs to find a new national finds adviser. Even if it were ancient (which I very seriously doubt), there's nothing scarce, let alone remotely "unique," about imitatives and counterfeits.

Yes, indeed, I think Mr. Clements may want to find other means of funding his course.
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Re: A Ho-Hum story about an ancient fake.
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 09:13:06 am »
I'd also like to know where you can pick up an official issue of the type this copies for £100!

 

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