BAVARIA - Duchy? Passau? ID help needed!

[dpaul7]

Hello!

I am hoping to get some help with this Bavarian piece!  It is a nice copper/bronze coin, about 25 mm.

The obverse has Bavarian-style quartered arms over a cross; legend reads:  (from 1 o'clock) .ERNE BA+DVX EPS LEOD
Reverse has what appears to be a tower with a cross atop; with XII  and SV[.] on each side.  Outer legend reads
AVDIATVR + ALT... (last letter in inscription is possiobly an S).

ANy help is appreciated... I have searched my library to no avail! 

Dpaul7

[rick2]

it is hardly an islamic coin

it was struck under Ernst of Bavaria as Bishop of Liege in Belgium

EPS LEOD is the indication of provenance

it could be a liard or a 1/2 liard

period 1581-1612


regards

[Arminius]

Should be a 12 sols piece of 1594 AD. from Liege/Luik/Lüttich (French/Dutch/German name) in todays Belgium.
Count Ernest of Bavaria, bishop of Liege/luik.

More info on http://www.duiten.nl/luiktot1612.htm  (go ca. 60% down).


The Dutch description:

LUI.30: Brûlé van 12 sols of 1/2 liard (koper)(de Chestret 557 - Dengis 970)

VOORZIJDE : Gevierendeeld wapenschild gelegen op een kruis welke de binnenrand doorbreekt. In kwartier 1 en 4 het wapen van Palatinat (leeuw) en in kwartier 2 en 3 het wapen van Beieren (ruiten).

TEKST: ERNE / BA. DV / X. EPS /  LEOD (of variant). Dit is voluit: Ernestus Bavaria dux episcopus Leodiensis. Dit betekend: Ernestus hertog van Beieren, bisschop van Luik.

KEERZIJDE: Het perron van Luik geplaatst binnen een parelrand, aan weerszijden XII - SVS (12 sols).

TEKST: AVDIATVR x ALTERA x PARS: x (of variant). Dit betekend: men moet ook de tegenpartij horen (hoor en wederhoor).

Muntmeester:

         ZJ (1594)


Info:

Ook met SVS, SOV, SOS, SO of SOVS aan weerszijden van het perron. Deze munten worden vermeld in een proclamatie uit 1595.

Regards

[dpaul7]

WOW! 

Thanks for the QUICK answer!

I never thought to look in the Low Countries!  I suspected a Bishopric, based on the EPS inscription... But the Dutch description makes it crystal clear!

Rick2 - I posted here because it is for MEDIEVAL coins... AND Islamic & Crusader. 

Both of you were so fast to respond!!!! Many thanks to both of you for the great response!  And THANKS ARMINUS expecially for the great reference web page! 

Dpaul7

[curtislclay]

A nice rev. inscription, AVDIATVR x ALTERA x PARS: "Let the other side be heard", "Let's give due consideration to the arguments opposing our position".