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« on: September 14, 2009, 12:35:45 pm »

COINEX - the UK's most prestigious coin fair is fast approaching. Held in London's Mayfair on the 2nd and 3rd October, it is the 31st annual event held by the British Numismatic Trade Association.

http://www.bnta.net/page.php?subaction=showfull&id=1177545968

Any UK collectors going along or have gone in past years? It will be my first time there; hoping to find some good Trajans  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 01:59:49 pm »

I last visited Coinex in 2001, in the same location, but it triggers a couple of interesting memories.

The first, as regards ancient coins, I walked in the door shortly after the show opened for general entrance, and at the very first desk I visited I happened upon a lovely Aes Grave semis, of the bull/wheel type, attractive and in nice condition with a provenance as being from the Spencer-Churchill coin sale and indeed it was a coin suitable for the collection of an illustrious family. I cannot now recall which date the sale was from, it wasn't from Winston Churchill - he had better things to do such as drinking whisky, painting, writing history books and winning wars - but from another branch of the family that also of course included Diana Spencer. Perhaps someone might remind me which coin sale was the Spencer-Churchill collection. At the risk of a frown for providing a link rather than a pic here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/3351480982 a lovely coin anyway. It was priced at £550 but ws mine for £500 cash. I thought it a tad over-priced at the time, but in that assessment I was gravely mistaken, it was not at all overpriced. So I had my first and last purchase within 10 minutes of arrival because I saw nothing else of great interest, inevitably the Roman coins at a British show being predominantly concentrated on the Empire. Still it was a nice browse, in size the room was about the size of the centre section only of the main room at NYINC,  but quite decent quality specially if you were interested in English coins, Gold nobles tumbling off every tables.

The second recollection was spotting a childhood numismatic friend from Dublin, a then elderly dealer name Emil Szaeur who sold me many modern coins when I was aged perhaps 9 to 12, and subsequently ancient coins after a trip to Egypt at the age of 12 when I bought some LRBs by the side of the Nile in Luxor from a street trader who had a box of mixed ancients and moderns, priced at 2 for an Egyptian pound and obviously not knowing that some were older than others. Emil left a strong impression on me, one of those formative bricks-and-mortar dealers such as Thomas Curtis of Baldwin's was to prove for me two decades later. He emphasised quality and condition to me, and to this day I am ashamed to say that I have consistently failed to take that advice. He never accepted to haggle over price, but the coins were fairly priced.

I was a shy kid and not that good at talking to an adult about coins but he was the first person (many followed) who told me to buy the book before the coins, all my initial Sear handbooks came from him and perhaps fifteen years later I bought my copy of Crawford's Roman Republican coins. Several times I remember him spending a long time with his books trying to identify some crusty old coin I brought in, one I recall was a provincial issue with a bearded and turreted head within a temple with I think Lucius Verus on the obverse; we never identified the coin. I think I still have the coin at home, still unidentified. My love of coin books stemmed from his advice (although not my tolerance for crappy rarities, that is all my own doing) as well as for auction catalogues - as I got a little older he from time to time handed me a gratis catalogue, one NFA mail-bid catalogue I still treasure  twenty or more years later as having an excellent selection of Andrew-McCabe condition coins, ie battered rarities in F-VF condition, and probably that catalogue confirmed me in my current collecting interests.

As for the coins themselves, mostly his shop was a paradise of a display of items of beauty - large Japanese gold bars side by side with African bracelet money and Aes Grave, Scottish 16th century gold and Kruggerands, Anglo-Saxon pennies and zinc small change from the third Reich, Hiberno-Norse imatitives side by side with Victoria golden Jubilee coins, books on every available wall space and tasteful artifacts too. I've seen many bricks and mortar coin dealers in my life but this one was a treasure chest the like of which I have never seen since. And you wonder that I love coin collecting?

Well, Roman Republic was not his speciality, but one day about 1980 I saw a Roman silver coin which I liked that was very very different from the LRBs I was used to. When he explained to me that the coin held a picture of Ulysees on his return from the Trojan war being greeted by his dog who was the only living creature still to recognise him, I was hooked - it was my first Roman Republican coin and I collected nothing but Republican coins from that day onwards. That coin is still a central part of my collection. The strange thing is that when I published my collection on http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/#quick a couple of months ago, I was absolutely devestated when, of all the 1500 or so coins, the authenticity of that coin http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahala_rome/3538902680/ was attacked on an Italian discussion group, due to stylistic reasons. Much to-and-fro discussion and the intervention of several notable experts led to the conclusion that the coin is an ancient imitation in fair style. Of course I was blinded from questioning the coin myself due to its emotional attachment, but it is still ancient and authentic albeit not from an official mint - I just need to add a regular mint version to my collection now and am looking out for a very nice example. Ted Buttrey wrote me a short note after the coin was "exposed" so to speak to say "never get too attached to your coins, they break your heart".

The second coin which Emil Szauer brings to mind was my genuine EID MAR denarius. Yes I had one. No you cannot see it on my site. The coin in question was the flattest, most worn EID MAR in history, showing on the obverse just the very top of Brutus' head with the letters BRVT showing, and one side only of a dagger on the reverse. Pure silver, quite genuine. I owned this coin briefly in the 1990s when a financial issue sort-of forced me to part with it in 1999. Well, not quite true. What actually happened is that Emil disapproved of it. Once when visiting Dublin and I dropped by his shop I showed him the auction catalogue where I obtained it, and he said he would never want to own such a coin no matter how rare or desirable. Oh dear! So when I had to dispose of a bunch of coins, the EID MAR left me too. I guess this was as much out of respect for my numismatic mentor who disliked the coin as for any real need for cash. Certainly, a decade later, I cannot myself understand why I let it go. But then I recall the gleaming showcase of Emil's shop and it all makes sense.

So, seeing Emil in 2001 was a nice surprise for me and for him although he was clearly not in good health. I was surprised at him visiting a coin show across the water in London, but he told me that many old friends of his, knowing he was in poor health, had clubbed together to arrange a table at Coinex for him, gratis, and sponsored his trip from Dublin for the show so that he could meet decades-worth of numismatic friends. Including, happily, me, given it was just a chance encounter. Emil had on his table a representative selection of very high quality coins (as always!) from a range of different cultures, all for sale but as much a showcase as anything else, and typical of how his shop was always a showcase for quality. He was very proud to be there, reminding me that he was one of the very earliest members of the International Association of Professional Numismatists, the high-end dealers club.

I did not see him again, the next year when I visited Dublin his shop was still there and closed, and I saw today reference on the internet to an Emil Szaeur memorial event which was held in 2004, with notable numismatists in attendance and an important lecture.

Dear readers if you have got this far excuse please excuse me. But it may help to answer the often asked question from beginner collectors, "how did you get so fanatically interested in Roman Republican coinage". Well Emil Szaeur was the start, and other important mentors built on those strong foundation and are still building.

Andrew McCabe
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 01:19:50 pm »

Thanks for those reminisces Andrew. I enjoyed reading about your friend Emil and how he inspired you.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 03:22:49 pm »

Thank you  Andrew.

I too, enjoyed your story. I have a friend who loves "crappy rarities", albeit of a different era. I think it must be in some people's blood  Grin

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 09:01:20 am »

Coinex was excellent this weekend with an impressive turnout by International dealers from all corners of the world. I ended up buying a few Trajanic beauties from just the one dealer, Canadian Coin and Currency from Ontario, who had a fantastic selection of ancients to choose from.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 12:04:11 pm »

I seem to have missed this thread but ..

I too knew Emil Szaeur and his shop in Dublin.  A friend of mine was involved in cataloguing his estate for auction purposes, and as a result I managed to get a lot (and I mean A  LOT) of medieval Indian coins from his estate.  The top flight stuff all went for silly money but I was so pleased with my purchase that day.

He was a very knowledgable person indeed and I too remember visiting the shop and benefiting from his extensive knowledge.

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