Crawford online?

[Tom Mullally]

A friend of mine recently mentioned that he'd seen Crawford's "Roman Republican Coinage" available as a webpage, but he couldn't remember where he saw it.  A quick Google search hasn't turned up anything.  Has anyone seen Crawford online?

Tom

[quisquam]

Your friend probably has seen this site:
http://ancientcoinscatalog.narod.ru/crawford/crawford.htm

Not an online version of the book, but just a listing of the coins by Crawford numbers with pictures and descriptions of the coins collected from the internet, it seems.

Regards, Stefan

[Tom Mullally]

Yes, that must be it.  Thank you.

Tom

[esnible]

Google has a preview
v.1: http://books.google.com/books?id=U86A9w9xiDcC&printsec=frontcover
v.2: http://books.google.com/books?id=ZDXK11TRuQQC&printsec=frontcover

Google has another preview
v.1: http://books.google.com/books?id=NuBION2KtM4C&printsec=frontcover
v.2: http://books.google.com/books?id=htS7kPUyfzcC&printsec=frontcover

The book is still in print, list price is $490
http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521074924

Due to the exchange rate, you can get it a little cheaper from bookstores in the UK:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roman-Republican-Coinage-Michael-Crawford/dp/0521074924/

I would like a copy of this myself, but can't find the $$$.  Anyone getting tired of collecting?

The first edition is said to have better plates, Charles Davis is offering a used first edition for $700.

[j.berta]

http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/index.htm

Regards, Jozsef

[justinopolitanus]

--omissis--
I would like a copy of this myself, but can't find the $$$. 
--omissis--

Knowledge is only for rich people? 

[Jochen]

Why that? You can get knowledge here for free! 

Best regards

[Robert_Brenchley]

If you can't manage Crawford, get RSC volume 1. Try your local library; mine has it.

[imperialcoins]

The only problem I have with both the Russian and French "online Crawford" is that they do not cite where the coins came from.  Other than this, both have quite a number of examples.

Alfred

http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/index.htm

Regards, Jozsef

[Andrew McCabe]

A further problem of course is that the russian webpage grossly breach copyright and should absolutely not be supported. It is also of course far from complete anyway, missing the very great majority of early Republican coins. My own online version of Crawford is much more comprehensive than the russian version (my version features 1400 different coin types), although not of course including all those gorgeous FDC gold. But since the Russian catalogue stole these images anyway I think it better just to use CNG's site to view them. Here is my version of Crawford, fully copyright compliant, just scroll to "Crawford Arrangement".

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/#quick

Andrew

[Gilgamesh]

Excellent site Andrew. Should be in everyone's Favourites.

[Andrew McCabe]

I have posted online Michael Crawford's own commentary on about 50 or so of his own coin catalogue entries, written into his very rare Catalogue of the Roman Republican Coins in the collection of the Royal Scottish Museum Edinburgh, 1984. Against each listing I have added my own annotations either based on Crawford RRC or on later research which I found on the internet or my other books. Together they form a substantial update to Crawford RRC (lengthy, 4000 words or so).

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/History.html#Edinburgh

Readers may also be interested in a number of other book reviews I have written recently, again some are quite substantial, 1000 words or so for The Monetary Systems of the Greeks and Romans, William Harris editor, 2008, which explores the widespread use of non-coinage money in the ancient world: pre-coinage bullion expressed in minae, shekels, talents, negotiable cheques or loan notes, bank ledgers, the reserve status of the Athens tetradrachm etc. As well as commentary on the use of coinage, for examples that between 40BC and 200AD Rome ran predominantly on a gold-standard, with silver as little as 25% of the currency in circulation (despite the visible evidence of the coins we see today, which is dominated by silver)

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Mints.html#Harris

Also some other books, Ancient Coin Auction Catalogues 1880-1980, John Spring, 2009 being highly recommended, and as I indicate covers much more than the title suggests

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Auctions.html#Auctions

Greek and Roman Plated Coins, William Campbell, ANS Numismatic Notes and Monographs, 1933 is an old but valuable book that I overlooked in my last update.

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Mints.html#Plated

The Rise of the Romans 753BC to 146BC, Brian Taylor, 2008 and The Later Roman Republic 145BC to 27BC, Brian Taylor, 2008, is a new two volume volume book that will infuriate historians and academics but possibly delight the casual student:

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Coins_History.html#history

My next website update, in a few weeks, will concern writings around the date of the introduction of the denarius with new works by Roberto Russo and William Hollstein as well as William Loomis in Essays Badian.

cheers

[imperialcoins]

Interestingly enough, the French site is now indicating the source of the images and the Russian site is down.

Alfred

The only problem I have with both the Russian and French "online Crawford" is that they do not cite where the coins came from.  Other than this, both have quite a number of examples.

Alfred

http://davy.potdevin.free.fr/Site/index.htm

Regards, Jozsef

[Andrew McCabe]

Interestingly enough, the French site is now indicating the source of the images and the Russian site is down.
Alfred

Great news on both counts! I have been perpetually irritated by the Russian site and glad it has been taken down. The French site, with high-end auction coins, nicely complements my own site which has a much wider coverage of rare coins but often in lower-grade. The citations of the French site are properly done. The striking visual similarities of the two makes me wonder is it the same author, who just abandoned his Russian web-host when he upgraded his contents?

What is also excellent about the French site is he puts a description, with X in the image box, for coins which he does not reference, thus making it more or less a complete Crawford. A good 80% of the missing "X" coin types can be found on my site http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/#quick which has a different focus.

Whether he asked permission of the image owners is no longer any of my business, as it is all properly cited, and he has a contact address in case there is an issue. Whilst I am not keen on images being used without permission, use "with citation but without permission" is not such a bad result if the end product looks good. Which the French site does.

[helvetica]

Actually one part of the original Crawford IS online somewhere but for the life of me I don't know where. However, (and this applies to lots of other interesting numismatic stuff) if you use google advanced search, use the words Republican Coinage as words which MUST be present, go down a bit and select type: pdf. you'd be surprised what you can find....

Doing a general search like this one day I found all three volumes of the Grose: McClean collection (of Greek coins in Fitzwilliam Museum) in pdf form. 

[commodus]

If you can't manage Crawford, get RSC volume 1. Try your local library; mine has it.

RSC is not so helpful if you're working on AEs, though!

[Andrew McCabe]

If you can't manage Crawford, get RSC volume 1. Try your local library; mine has it.

RSC is not so helpful if you're working on AEs, though!

Those interested in AE's will know where the most comprehensive list and display, of Republican AE's can be found 

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/RomanRepublicBronzeRarities.html
http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/#quick

I'm plan in time hyperlink all the types in the first linked page to the pics linked from the second page, so that you can find the pics from the list of RR AE types, but it's another task in a never-ending tidal wave of projects still to do. Sometimes I'm not sure I'll get time in this lifetime. Wish I had an elf (with html skills) to help me ...

[Andrew McCabe]

If you can't manage Crawford, get RSC volume 1. Try your local library; mine has it.

RSC is not so helpful if you're working on AEs, though!

The German handbook, Die Munzen der Römischen Republik. R. Albert, 2003 is pretty good for bronzes, cheapish (30 euros) well illustrated with photos from 1990s auction catalogues and, unlike Sear, is laid out in the correct Crawford order and includes the rare early silver which Sear omits. It is better than Sear in almost every way except one - Albert took the attributions for his photos in the auction catalogues as "correct" and in fact Peus, Lanz, Ritter, mis-identified many coins, so those mis-identifications are replicated in the book.

http://andrewmccabe.ancients.info/Introductory.html#handbooks

Lanz is generally pretty good, Ritter knows a good coin when he sees one but consistently wrongly identifies Roman Republican coins, and Peus ... can't distinguish a genuine coin from a badly altered and tooled piece as their shockingly awful last sale demonstrated in heaps. So Albert's identifications and misidentifications follow the quality of his sources.

[helcaraxe]

Have you seen the second edition of Alberts work? It is supposed to be worse, from what I have heard. I still use the first edition.

Semper pax
helcaraxe