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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #600 on: December 02, 2018, 09:43:29 am »
Is it just me or is this tooled, particularly the reverse (look at those rowers)? The description mentions only 'a few cleaning marks'.

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #601 on: December 02, 2018, 09:59:36 am »
It's very unfortunate that somebody tried to "improve" that Hadrian coin, but ended-up decreasing its appeal and probably decreasing its value (it is/was an incredibly cool coin)

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #602 on: December 03, 2018, 08:03:10 am »
Quote from: okidoki on December 02, 2018, 09:43:29 am
older topic
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=116604.0

Thanks for the link! So it continues to be sold without a correct description....

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #603 on: March 17, 2019, 02:34:54 pm »
Make it sticky?
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #604 on: April 24, 2019, 01:00:54 pm »
Hadrian, 117-138 A.D.
As (134-138 A.D.), Rome
Obv.: Head to the right
HADRIANVS - AVG COS III P P
Rev.: Mauretania walking right, facing left, leading a horse
MAVRETANIA - S C


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VF
Tooled
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #605 on: April 24, 2019, 04:08:53 pm »
This poor Hadrian looks as if it were tooled with a screw driver.  I wonder whether the original reverse was an entirely different type.

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #606 on: May 25, 2019, 10:41:09 am »
tooled beard
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #607 on: May 25, 2019, 10:42:10 am »
Minimum bid: 1200 EUR  ??? ???
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #608 on: May 25, 2019, 01:46:32 pm »
Certainly smoothed but what parts are tooled?  The reverse drapery?

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #609 on: May 25, 2019, 01:50:10 pm »
Certainly smoothed but what parts are tooled?  The reverse drapery?
For me its tooled because there is original metal removed, maybe the reverse drapery is tooled as well
 
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #610 on: May 25, 2019, 08:05:53 pm »
It is tooled in many places. Ruined.
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #611 on: June 03, 2019, 08:27:58 pm »
To me, this appears to be a very badly tooled Salonina that has been
"converted" into a much rarer 'Tranquillina'.

What do you think?

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #612 on: June 03, 2019, 09:42:17 pm »
Walter,

Yes, obv. legend remade, but I think the original may have been Otacilia Severa rather than Salonina.
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #613 on: June 13, 2019, 08:19:35 pm »
Walter,

Yes, obv. legend remade, but I think the original may have been Otacilia Severa rather than Salonina.

Thanks Curtis. I think you are correct (as usual)! - W

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Another example of a BTC is this one from Ephesus.

It is not just the artificial "sand patina" that gives this away, it is the
sloppy and amateurish re-carving of the legends and "enhancing" of
the details on the bust and also the temples.

This is a horrible vandalism of an otherwise perfectly acceptable coin,
transforming it into a modern concoction rather than an ancient item
with its original presence and associated historical value as such.

Whoever is responsible should be ashamed of themselves.

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #614 on: June 14, 2019, 02:32:18 am »
Well spotted Walter,

i have to see very closely to see it, thank you for sharing same the the Salonina.
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #615 on: June 21, 2019, 06:35:40 pm »
Bad facelift for Kamnaskires!

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #616 on: June 21, 2019, 07:02:08 pm »
Did he use a screw driver to re-engrave it?

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #617 on: June 21, 2019, 11:59:22 pm »
Did he use a screw driver to re-engrave it?

Looks like it to me.  :-\ The obverse doesn't have anything original left.

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #618 on: August 10, 2019, 03:51:02 pm »
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #619 on: August 10, 2019, 08:48:38 pm »
The reverse looks like a cartoon, not even close to the original style--and the obvious, while less obvious, has also been totally reworked.

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #620 on: October 13, 2019, 03:07:56 pm »
 Etwas überarbeitet und geglättet, fast vorzüglich.

Slightly revised and smoothed, almost exquisite.
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #621 on: October 13, 2019, 05:57:26 pm »
Quote from: okidoki on October 13, 2019, 03:07:56 pm
Etwas überarbeitet und geglättet, fast vorzüglich.

Slightly revised and smoothed, almost exquisite.

It is a familiar style of tooling. I hate it.
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #622 on: October 13, 2019, 11:14:36 pm »
And not in the least bit credible.  
I have very strong views, as I have expressed before, that people who are clearly trying to deceive other people are.... wait for it... crooks. Criminals! People who would like to make a profit from people who are completely lacking in relevant knowledge, even if they have money.  
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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #623 on: October 19, 2019, 04:40:00 am »
Hadrian
Medaillon (37.74 g) hammered at 350 GBP
Medaillon (40,96 g) Tooled in new auction Starting Price: 2800 EUR


 

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Re: Badly Tooled Coins Here
« Reply #624 on: October 19, 2019, 06:57:35 am »
Excuse my ignorance, but could someone explain how possible the weight is higher after tooling ?
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