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« Reply #575 on: October 01, 2017, 05:02:09 am »

Hadrian not sure if reverse also was done
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« Reply #576 on: October 01, 2017, 07:02:54 am »

Wow, there are some pretty wild & obvious examples (fun thread)

Ummm, I have an example that kind of fits into this thread ...

Bosporian Kings, Sauromates I
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Date: circa 98-104 AD
Size: 27.94 mm
Weight: 9.49 grams
Obverse: TIBEPIOC IOYΛIOC BACIΛEYC CAYPOMATHC, Sauromates seated right on curule chair, holding sceptre tipped with the head of Trajan
Reverse: TEIMAI BACIΛEωC CAYPOMATOY, Round shield with spear, surrounded by battle axe, horse head, helmet, and sword in scabbard, mark of denomination (MH) below
Attribution: MacDonald 417
Description: A nice example with light tooling and smoothing typical for this issue. VF/VF

Man, I still love this cool coin ...


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« Reply #577 on: October 26, 2017, 12:21:54 am »

auw
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« Reply #578 on: November 03, 2017, 07:04:28 am »

Well-detailed specimen Very fine

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« Reply #579 on: November 13, 2017, 10:48:59 am »

Ebay of course
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« Reply #580 on: January 08, 2018, 11:06:01 am »

 Huh
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« Reply #581 on: March 08, 2018, 12:12:11 pm »

Poids :      26,3 g

Diamtre : 33 mm.

Qualit  : TTB  regrav

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« Reply #582 on: April 05, 2018, 06:45:10 am »

this sestertius is totally destroyed via tooling

1e legend COS V P P should be COS III
2e holding child made into cornucopia
3e obverse bust tooled
4e sand applied after tooling

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"Good VF, some tooling"
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« Reply #583 on: April 23, 2018, 09:16:51 am »

One of no less than three notable and horribly tooled items sold at a recent auction.
At least this one sold relatively cheaply:

Brief description:
JULIA TITI, Augusta, daughter of Titus, (A.D.79-81), . . . <snip>
Light brown toning, some tooling and cleaning, otherwise very fine and scarce.

"some tooling"!

Top image from latest sale, lower image from an earlier sale.

Others to follow.

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« Reply #584 on: April 23, 2018, 09:27:57 am »

The second of no less than three notable and horribly tooled items sold at a recent auction.
Incredibly, this sold for almost $5,000!

Brief description:
NERO, (A.D. 54-68), AE sestertius, . . . <snip>
Carefully tooled, otherwise good very fine, with attractive light brown patina and rare.

"Carefully tooled"!

Top image from latest sale, lower image from an earlier sale at same venue.

another to follow.

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« Reply #585 on: April 23, 2018, 09:45:40 am »

The third of no less than three notable and horribly tooled items sold at a recent auction.
This time it sold for over $3,300 (previously sold for over $5,000)!

Brief description:
FAUSTINA JUNIOR, wife of Marcus Aurelius, (died A.D. 175), AE sestertius, . . . <snip>
About as struck, extremely fine or better and very rare as such.

"About as struck"! No mention of tooling whatsoever.

Top image from latest sale, middle image from an earlier sale at same venue, lower image
from a prior sale at a different venue.

There were others, but these seem to be among the worst of them.

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« Reply #586 on: April 23, 2018, 10:06:08 am »

very very sad
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thank you for sharing
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« Reply #587 on: April 30, 2018, 03:48:57 am »

Here is a laughable and ridiculous example of the tooler's failure of both thought
and/or imagination. Stupidity at its finest. Such a waste of a previously good coin.

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« Reply #588 on: April 30, 2018, 06:42:48 am »

Not a bad Tooled as above, what irritates me, is the "Very fine; tooled." when on auction

if Tooled you can not say very fine
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« Reply #589 on: August 13, 2018, 08:41:50 am »

Currently being offered on a "well known" online auction site......
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« Reply #590 on: August 14, 2018, 06:25:20 am »

nice
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« Reply #591 on: September 22, 2018, 10:47:18 pm »

Attached image refers
Seller description:
Phoenicia, Tyre. ‘Uzzimilk. Ca. 347-332 B.C. AR shekel (18 mm, 8.25 g, 3 h). RY 3 (347/6 B.C.). Melqart riding hippocamp right, above waves and dolphin / Owl standing left, head facing, crook and flail over shoulder. Cf. HGC 10, 349. Rare with owl facing to left. Surfaces smoothed. Very fine.

Now that's what I call 'aggressive smoothing' on the reverse!
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« Reply #592 on: October 07, 2018, 03:33:31 am »

Hi folks,

There is an ancient coin [REMOVED BY ADMIN] In that auction, there is a Campania, Hyria coin for sale. It caught my attention for 2 reasons. First, the dealers used a photo of that coin in their bulk email announcing the auction. Second, I specialize in collecting Magna Graecia, Campania coins. That coin was issued in Hyria, which is believed to have merged with Nola, which is very close to my maternal grandparents' home town (Maddaloni).

When I visited their website, I immediately clicked on that coin and enlarged the photo. What I saw was frightening. The obverse portrait was clearly severely and horribly tooled. It looks odd. It does not match any known examples of that issue. It has numerous scrape marks and cuts. Also, the obverse portrait and hair are smooth, but the entire rest of the coin has porosity. It is a shame that someone ruined what could have been a beautiful Campania coin.

The text description for that coin did not state that the coin was tooled.

I emailed Nick Molinari for confirmation. He confirmed my suspicion.

So, I emailed the dealer and informed him of my thoughts regarding this coin. I also advised him that the ethical thing to do would be for him to disclose this fact in the text description.

He responded immediately. Apparently, he was totally unaware of the horrible tooling. I seem to have caught him off guard. After all, as I mentioned above, he used a photo of that coin in the email announcing the auction.

He thanked me for providing that information. Within a span of less than 48 hours, he modified the auction text description to state "tooled obverse". I was pleasantly surprised that he added that phrase in a timely manner. He did the ethical thing, and he should be commended for that.

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« Reply #593 on: October 11, 2018, 12:35:45 pm »

heavily smoothed and tooled with the fourth soldier on the reverse having been removed
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« Reply #594 on: November 18, 2018, 02:48:34 pm »

 Molto rara - Leggeri ritocchi, ma di buona qualit generale

in my eyes.
obverse
legend different in style.
bust/ noose tooled

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« Reply #595 on: November 18, 2018, 03:36:38 pm »

More tooling that that--hair and beard on the obverse, virtually all the drapery on the reverse, and the fields smoothed.  Damn shame!
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« Reply #596 on: November 19, 2018, 06:25:21 am »

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« Reply #597 on: November 21, 2018, 11:30:33 am »

 leicht bearbeitet, sonst gutes sehr schn
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« Reply #598 on: December 01, 2018, 12:27:47 pm »

obvious
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« Reply #599 on: December 01, 2018, 12:30:43 pm »

Antinous

its tooled on legend H into E, so probably the lips are also tooled auction house did not note it.
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