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« Reply #125 on: February 13, 2010, 09:02:24 am »


Here's another example, AE27, of unlisted type #95 *, Elagabalus laur. and cuirassed bust r. / Athena stg. l. with owl, shield behind, YP IOYL SELEYKO[Y] MARKIANOPOLITW[N], OY and AR ligate, fourth Y and last N undetectable on my specimen; worth comparing HJ 6.27.4.1, Elagabalus and Julia Soaemias, also Seleucus, R9, from a different reverse die.

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« Reply #126 on: February 13, 2010, 09:34:36 am »



Regarding Jochen's #99 Ares, H&J, in my edition, lists it as 6.36.11.1, but I am unsure on the obverse die comparison - will study a little closer in a few minutes. I am quite sure that the reverse type is not in my collection.

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« Reply #127 on: February 13, 2010, 02:30:22 pm »

Hi Charles!

Yes, you are right. #99 is Ares Hristova/Jekov No.6.36.11.1; AMNG I/1, 1104. I have corrected it. Thanks for checking the contributions!

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« Reply #128 on: February 13, 2010, 02:43:17 pm »

Jochen, can you tell me how many separate entries or varieties HJ's book has?
Just to put into perspective the 100 unlisted coins you have found.

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« Reply #129 on: February 13, 2010, 04:03:56 pm »

Hi Andreas!

There are 220 pages in H/J with about 5 ex. per page = about 1100 ex. So we have now c.10% new ones. And you have seen that there are different categories:
1. legend variations and legend distributions (most of all)
2. new die combinations
3. corrections
4. new bust types
5. new rev. types, among them some complete new ones
From the last category we have now 30 types.

If there are errors please post it. By the amount of attributions it's quite possible.

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« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2010, 06:50:24 am »

#113

New rev. type for Seleucus

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 27, 10.09g
struck under governor Julius Antonius Seleucus
obv. AVT.K.M.AVRELIOC - ANTWNEINOC
        Bust, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r.
rev. VP.IOVL.ANT.CELE - VKOV MARKIANOPOLIT / WN (2nd OV ligate)
       Nemesis/Aequitas, in long garment and mantle, stg. l., holding cornucopiae in l.
       arm and scales in r. hand; at her feet l. the wheel.
ref. a) not in AMNG:
          obv. AMNG I/1, 847 (= 844)
          rev. AMNG I/1, 847 (depiction)
                 AMNG I/1, 857 (legend)
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.):
          cf. #1476 (cites AMNG 846 in error, but that is a different type)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          this type is known from No.6.26.35.8-9, but obviously without the wheel
          citing in error AMNG 841-843 (Nemesis with scales, rod and wheel)
pedigree:
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« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2010, 07:54:28 am »

#114

A new rev. type for Philopappus, as all Homonoia types

Severus Alexander, AD 222-235
AE 26, 9.72g
struck for governor Fir(mius?) Philopappus
obv. AVT KM AVR - ALEZANDROC
        Bust, draped and cuirassed, seen frontally, laureate, r.
rev. VP FIR FILOPAPPOV MARKIANOPOLITWN (PP and WN ligate)
       Homonoia stg. l., holding cornucopiae and patera
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1043 (doesn't mention view of bust)
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1815
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          has no Homonoia from Philopappus!
F, dark green patina
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« Reply #132 on: February 15, 2010, 02:57:06 pm »

#115

Variant of rev. legend

Septimius Severus, 193-211
AE 27, 11.01g
struck under governor Aurelius Gallus
obv. AV KL CEP - CE[VHROC P]
       Bust, draped and cuirassed, r
rev. V AV GALLOV MARKIAN - OPOLITWN
      Dionysos, nude, wearing boots, stg. l., holding kanhtaros in lowered r. hand and resting
      with l. hand on thyrsos
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 556 var. (different legend break on rev.)
     b) Varbanov (engl.) 744
     c) Hristova/Jekov No.6.14.8.3 var. (has MAR - KIANO)

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« Reply #133 on: February 15, 2010, 03:16:14 pm »

#116

Variant of obv. legend and rev. legend

Gordian III & Serapis, 238-244
AE 27, 12.49g
struck under governor Menophilus
obv. [AVT] KM ANT GORDIANOC / AVG
       Confronted busts of Gordian III & Serapis
rev. VP MHNOFILOV MARKAINOPOLITO(sic!)
      in lower r. field N
      Emperor in military cloak and mantle over l. shoulder, stg. l., holding with extended r.
      hand patera over tripod and resting with l. hand on reversed spear.
      in lower l. field E
ref.: a) not in AMNG
       b) Varbanov (engl.) 1983
       c) not in Hristova/Jekov
           No.6.37.34.1 has M ANT and W above N in r. field. The obv. legend is so worn that it could be the same legend
           as on the attached type.
          Could be added as No.6.37.34.2
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« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2010, 04:11:39 pm »

#117

new variant of rev. legend

Severus Alexander, AD 222-235
AE 25(?)
struck under governor Tib. Julius Festus
obv. AVT KM AVR CEVH . ALEZANDROC
        Bust, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r.
rev. VP TIB IOVL FHCTO - V MARKIANOPOLIT / WN (AR and WN ligate)
       Homonoia stg.l., holding cornucopiae and patera
ref.: a) not in AMNG:
           Vs. AMNG I/1, 1010
           Rs. AMNG I/1, 1010 (depiction)
                 AMNG I/1, 1009 var. (legend, but different break)
       b) not in Varbanov (engl.):
           cf. Varbanov (engl.) 1815 (different bust!)
       c) Hristova/Jekov No.6.32.36.7 var.
           could be added as No.6.32.36.8

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« Reply #135 on: February 16, 2010, 07:00:08 am »

A new emperor for Markianopolis?

Antoninius Pius, AD 138-161
AE 19, 5.33g
obv. AVT AIL AVR  - [A]NTWNEINO
       Bare head r.
rev. MARIANO(sic!) - POLEIT[W] .
      Bunch of wine-grapes
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekovv
From Forum Ancients Gallery, Bard Gram O coll.

Yes, Forum's Gallery is a source of unknown treasures. I have started to check Markianopolis for unlisted types. A side effect will be that I give references to all coins which I'm able to attribute. I hope that this side effect will not became a collateral damage.

Actually there are no coins of Antoninus Pius from Markianopolis at all. It is common opinion that Markianopolis started coinage under Commodus. Varbanov has listed 1 type of Sabina and 1 type of Marcus Aurelius, but both with no evidence for authencity. So I think here we have the same problem: Authentic or not? Any opinion highly appreciated!

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« Reply #136 on: February 16, 2010, 09:04:56 am »

Probably Hadrianopolis, Jurukova 33-36, rather than Marcianopolis misspelled, I would say.
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« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2010, 10:39:09 am »

Yes, now I see it too. Thanks!

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« Reply #138 on: February 17, 2010, 11:46:23 am »

#118

Variant of rev. legend

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 25, 10.38g
struck under governor Sergius Titianus
obv. AVT KM AVRHLI - ANTWNEINOC
       Head, laureate, r.
rev. VP CERG TITIAN - OV MARKIANOPOLI / [TWN] (OV und WN ligiert)
      Hera, in long garment, stg. l., holding patera and resting on sceptre
ref. a) Not in AMNG:
          obv. AMNG I/1, 881
          rev. AMNG I/1, 877
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.):
           cf. #1436 (= AMNG 877)
        c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
            has only AVRH and no break on rev. legend
            could be added as No.26.3.11   
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« Reply #139 on: February 18, 2010, 10:54:15 am »

#119

A new rev. type

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 17, 2.08g
obv. [AVT KM AVR] - ANTWNINOC
       Head, laureate, r.
rev. [MA]RKIANOPOLIT[WN]
      Crescent with 5 stars, arranged in circle
ref. a) not in AMNG
         cf. AMNG I/1, 933 (4 stars)
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
          #1394 (= AMNG 933)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov
          cf. #6.26.48.3 (= AMNG 933)
          The obv. seems to be the same one.
ex coll. rubadub (FORVM's Gallery)

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« Reply #140 on: February 19, 2010, 06:55:56 am »

#120

A new type for Titianus

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE ?
struck under governor Sergius Titianus
obv. [AVT KM] AVR . ANTWNEINOC
       Head, slightly bearded, laureate, r.
rev. VP CERG TITIANOV - MARKIANOPOLITWN (WN ligate)
       Aequitas with cornucopiae and scales stg.l.
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 897 var. (has AVRH, WN not ligate, no break of rev. legend)
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov
          Hristova/Jekov has no type of Aequitas with cornucopiae for Titianus
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« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2010, 08:17:17 am »

#121

Variant of rev. legend for #113 in this thread

Elagabal, AD 218-222
AE 27
struck under governor Julius Antonius Seleucus
obv. AVT.K.M.AVRELIOC - ANTWNEINOC
        Bust draped and cuirassed, laureate, r.
rev. VP IOVL ANT CE - LEVKOV MARKIANO / POLITWN (in small letters, WN ligate)
      Nemesis/Aequitas, in long garment and mantle, stg. l., holding cornucopiae in l.
      arm and scales in r. hand; at her feet l. the wheel.
ref. a) not in AMNG:
         obv. AMNG I/1, 844
         rev. AMNG I/1, 847
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1585
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov
          this type is known from No.6.26.35.8-9, but obviously without the wheel
          citing in error AMNG 841-843 (Nemesis with scales, rod and wheel)
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« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2010, 05:28:10 pm »

#122

A new rev. type for Tullius Menophilus

Gordian III & Serapis, AD 238-244
AE ?
struck under governor Tullius Menophilus
obv. AVT KM below, ANT[...] GORDIANOC AVG
       Confronting busts of Gordian III, draped, laureate, r., and Serapis, draped and with
       kalathos, l.
rev. [VP M]HN[ O]FILOV - MARKIANOPOLI
      in r. field one below the other T / W / N
      Nemesis/Aequitas, in long garment and mantle, wearing kalathos, holding in l. arm
      cornucopiae and in r. hand scales; l. at her feet the wheel
      in upper l. field E
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1156 (3 ex., Copenhagen, Mionnet, Subhy Pacha)
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 2005
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          Hristova/Jekov has no types of Nemesis/Aequitas with cornucopiae, scales and wheel!
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« Reply #143 on: February 19, 2010, 05:43:42 pm »

#123

A completely new and unknown wonderful type

Markianopolis, pseudo-autonomous, Severan time(?)
AE 14, 1.60g
obv. Youthful male portrait, laureate, r.
rev. MARKIANOPO - LITWN
      Lion advancing r.
ref. a) not in AMNG
      b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov
This seems to be a complete new type!
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« Reply #144 on: February 20, 2010, 06:55:51 am »

#124

A new type for Tereventinus

Severus Alexander & Julia Maesa, AD 222-235
AE 28, 13.76g
struck under governor Umbrius Tereventinus
obv. AVT KM AVR CEVH ALEZANDROC IOVLIA MAICA.
      Confronting busts of Severus Alexander, r., and Julia Maesa, l.
rev. HG OVM TEREBENTINOV - MARKIANOPOLITWN (HG, both OV and WN ligate,
      possibly AR too)
      Hera, in long garment, stg. l., holding patera and sceptre
      in r. field E
ref. a) not in AMNG:
         no Hera for Tereventinus
     b) not Varbanov (engl.)
         no Hera for Tereventinus
     c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
         Hera is listed only for Tib. Julius Festus #6.33.3.1
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« Reply #145 on: February 20, 2010, 07:16:24 am »

#125

Another new type for Tereventinus

Severus Alexander, AD 222-235
AE 27
struck under governor Umbrius Tereventinus
obv. AVT KM AVR CEV - ALEZANDROC
      Head, laureate, r.
rev. HG OVM TEREBENTINOV - MARKIANOPOLIT / WN (HG, 1st OV and AR ligate)
      Aequitas stg. l., holding scales and rod; no wheel at feet
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 1030 var. (has only N in ex.)
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1704 (= AMNG 1030), same obv. die (writes in error CEVH!)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          For Tereventinus are listed some types of Nemesis/Aequitas, but all with the wheel at
          her feet, No.6.32.35.1-3.
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« Reply #146 on: February 20, 2010, 09:54:32 am »

#126

New die combination and rev. legend variation, forgotten?

Caracalla, AD 198-217
AE 26, 10.2g, 15°
struck under governor Quintillianus
obv. PIOC AVGOVCTOC - ANTWNINOC
       Head, bearded, laureate, r.
rev. VP KVNTILIANO - V MARKIANOPOLI
      in l. an r. field T - W (sic!, without N)
      Homonoia, in long garment and with kalathos, stg. l., holding cornucopiae in l. arm and
      patera in extended r. hand; l. before her a burning altar
 ref. a) AMNG I/1, 641 (2 ex., both Bukarest)
      c) Varbanov (engl.) 981 corr. (cites AMNG 641, but doesn't mention the missing N!)
      d) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          obv. is known from No.6.18.47.7 (Tyche on rev.)
          rev. with T - W in field is not listed
          could be added as No.6.18.36.12
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« Reply #147 on: February 23, 2010, 06:56:00 am »

#127

New die combination

Septimius Severus, AD 193-211
AE 18
obv. AVT L CEPT - CEVHROC P
      Bust, draped and cuirassed, laureate, r.
rev. MARKI - ANOPOLI - TWN
      Kybele with tympanon and patera std. l., lion on each side of throne.
ref. a) not in AMNG
     b) not in Varbanov (engl.)
     c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
         obv. No. 6.14.31.18, but obv. legend with P at the end
         rev. known from No.6.14.14.2; the obv. legend with P seems to be rare
         could be added as No.6.14.31.21
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« Reply #148 on: February 23, 2010, 08:04:13 am »

#128

New die combination and rev. legend variant

Caracalla & Julia Domna, 198-217
AE 26
struck under governor Quintilianus
obv. [A]NTWNINOC AVGOVCTOC IOVLIA DO[MNA]
       Head of Caracalla, laureate r., and bust of Julia Domna, draped, l.
rev. VP KVNTILIANOV - MARKIANOPOLI[TWN]
      Nemesis, in long garment and with mantle, stg. l., holding measuring rod in l. arm and
      scales in r. hand; l. at her feet the wheel.
      in upper l. field E
ref. a) So not in AMNG:
         obv. f.e. AMNG I/1, 677
         rev. AMNG I/1, 676 var. (no rev. legend break)
     b) not in Varbanov (engl.):
         cf. #1035 (= AMNG 676) 
     c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
         obv. No.6.19.35.1
         rev. No.6.19.35.2 var. (no legend break)
ex coll. Maridunum (FORVM's Gallery)

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« Reply #149 on: February 23, 2010, 08:57:52 am »

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New die combination

Caracalla & Julia Domna, AD 197-218
AE 27, 11.60g
struck under governor Quintillianus
obv. ANTWNINOC AVGOVCTOC IOV - LIA DO
       above MNA (MN ligate)
       Head of Caracalla, laureate, r., and bust of Julia Domna, draped, l.
rev. VP KVNTILIANOV - MARKIANOPOLITWN
      Tyche with kalathos, stg.l., holding cornucopiae and rudder
      in upper l. field E
ref. a) AMNG I/1, 678 var. (ligate MN known, but in different positions) 
      b) Varbanov (engl.) 1054 (= AMNG 678; doesn't take care of legend breaks)
      c) not in Hristova/Jekov:
          obv. No,6.19.22.3 (MN of MNA ligate!)
          rev. No.6.19.38.3
ex coll. Areich (FORVM's Gallery)

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