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Offline ROMA

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Aelius denarius
« on: November 19, 2008, 11:30:08 pm »
I looked through the fake coin reports and did not see this example. Wanted to verify before condemning.
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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 11:33:51 pm »
I hope it's a Lipanoff fake.  I like it NOT.  But often when I am repelled by a coin, others endorse it.  Pat L.

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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 11:52:57 pm »
Judging from the photo, I have to agree with Pat... it looks fake to me.

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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 03:12:52 am »
hi, im trying to learn more about how to spot fakes, can you tell me why this one looks fake to you? is it the flatness of the letters?

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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 05:02:55 am »
hi, im trying to learn more about how to spot fakes, can you tell me why this one looks fake to you? is it the flatness of the letters?

No. Pat says Its from a Lipanov die, a modern engraved die made by the Lipanov Studio, Sofia. I dont know which one, you'd need Dr Prokopov's books.

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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 05:18:38 am »
It does look more convincing than the ones in the fake reports though, maybe it's just a really bad photo?
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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 12:23:55 pm »
Ys, I've withheld judgment because the photos are so poor and the lighting odd.
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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 12:31:54 pm »
No. Pat says Its from a Lipanov die, a modern engraved die made by the Lipanov Studio, Sofia. I dont know which one, you'd need Dr Prokopov's books.

Pat doesn't state it is a Lipanoff fake but says "I hope it's a Lipanoff fake.", which is a different thing entirely. I don't recognise it as matching one of the fake reports but I am not comfortable enough to condemn the coin on the images alone. I am not familiar with the legitimate coinage of Aelius to make a real judgement. That doesn't mean I would buy it though. If I wasd after one of these I would go through Joe here at Forvm just to be safe.
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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 12:58:11 pm »
Martin says it so much better than I did, and he knows more about denarii, too.  Pat L.
P.S. I was lazy.  I relied on style, not least the lettering but also the expression.  Here it is: I have the book, and I have put its title and date on the scan.  Are the differences due to the current offering being generations later than the new Lipanoff dies, or is it the real thing?  I supposed it might be subsequent to that publication, but it's not only in it, it's the ONLY Aelius in it.  Still available in Forvm's Books list.  P.L.

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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 01:55:51 pm »
That's what I meant, the Lipanoff one is a joke. The other might be genuine or it might not be
but it's not as ridiculous as the Lipanoff one.
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Re: Aelius denarius
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 07:46:08 pm »
Hello All!

Here's another I stumbled across. It's similar, but not the same. Is it a fake, as well?

Thanks!
mz

 

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