Crusader State ?

[Arminius]

Can someone identify this tiny bronze coin?

14-16 mm / 1,59 g

The combination of Christ and Arab script probably originates from a crusader state, ca. 1000-1200 AD.

No matches on online references so far.

Thanks

[dpaul7]

Interesting! 

There appears to be a date at the bottom -- 1433 or 433, I am not sure which.  433 would make it about 1055 if an SH date,  or  1042 if an AH date.  I am VERY interested to see if anyone recognizes this one!

dpaul7

[Arminius]

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[chassid-80]

What beautiful coin!

Probably, an XI cent. norman copper follaro, struck in Bari or Messina, both in Southern Italy.

Regards, Anto.

[Maffeo]

Probably, an XI cent. norman copper follaro, struck in Bari or Messina, both in Southern Italy.

Regards, Anto.

Yes, that's the most plausible answer. But I haven't found anything corresponding to it in Lucia Travaini's "La Monetazione nell'Italia Normanna", Rome 1995.

[Arminius]

This book

"SPAHR, R., Le Monete Siciliane dai Bizantini a Carlo I d'Angio, 582- 1282. 2e ed. rev., Zurich-Graz, 1976"

may cointain this coin. But so far i didn´t manage to see it.

So if someone has this, ...

Thanks so far for your efforts

[tacrolimus]

I think this is Roger II struck at Messana/Messina (Biaggi 1219)
The picture of Biaggi isn't of help.
For comparison try:

http://home.eckerd.edu/~oberhot/italysouth.htm



Another in bad condition (the fifth specimen) here:

http://medievalcoins.ancients.info/cgi-bin/webdata_coinbase.pl?Dynasty=sicily&Ruler=Roger+II&Reign+Date=1130&cgifunction=Search

Luigi

[Arminius]

Thanks Luigi, you fixed it.

So the good old Maskukat Collection also has it!