Help ID 2 ancient coins

[EX.NVMMIS]

Hi all!

Please I need ID for this two coins
Thanks!

Ricardo

[areich]

The first one is a celtic imitation of a Phillip II tetradrachm but what type, I have no idea.
Andreas

[EX.NVMMIS]

Thanks Areich!

I FORGET TELL:
FIRST ARE 2g, 20mm

SECOND ARE 2.5g, 18mm

[areich]

The second one looks vaguely Spanish.

[tacrolimus]

Your second coin reminds me some unofficial issues imitating those of Panormos, mostly found in central Italy.
I hope you may see enough details from the picture below; it belongs to paper of Clive Stannard who studied these imitative coins found in central Italy near the Liri river (*).
No clear identification of obverse head is given, just "bearded male head right".
Full descritpion on n. 76 specimen in Stannard study on the second picture.

Luigi

(*) Clive Stannard: Overstrikes and imitative coinages in central Italy in late Republic, London (1998)

 

[EX.NVMMIS]

Thanks Luigi!

Yes, it may be an unofficial coin like this!

[taurisker]

Hi community 
Hi Ricardo

Your first coin (2g, 20mm) is from the middle danube celts, variant of type Velemer Kapostaler drachm

Av. head with beard right, zig-zag lines (stylized laurel wreath), long stiffy hair above
Rv. horse/rider left, horse with stylized head, different marks arround

ref. Dembski 1441

kind regards from Austria
Herfried

[EX.NVMMIS]

Thank you very much Herfried!!!

[taurisker]

You´re welcome Ricardo!

[taurisker]

Hi again Ricardo,

I have some additional info about your coin: I´m a member of the german board (http://www.numismatikforum.de) and moderator in the forum for celtic coins there and I discussed your coin with my colleague Harald, he is a specialist for celtic coins especially for Boii and eastern celts ... he believes, that the weight and the diameter is totally unusual for such a piece and also he is very sure, that this belongs not to the reference 'Velem Kapostal' I suggested yesterday, because it´s more of the style for a variant of the type 'Kreuzelreiter', but all of that is very uncertain ... the weight of your coin is to low for the diameter of 20mm too, maybe it´s an alloy with mostly tin and only a little part of silver, also there is no clearly reference found for the representation on obverse/reverse ... I agree to this consideration and so we are not sure if it is authentic ancient, maybe it is a (modern) fake coin.

Best regards
Herfried