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David S4

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ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« on: July 28, 2008, 04:26:20 pm »
Hello,
Please help me ID this coin:
        AE18mm 2.62g
        observe: Geta right with PSEPTGETAPIVSAVGBRIT around
        reverse: Aeternitas holding torch and globe with TRPIII  COSIIPP around

I am almost positive it is a mint made, pre silver foil contemporary counterfit of denarius RIC 0081.

Is this correct or is it an official issue I dont know about.
         
The coin is absolutly not a modern copy as I got it dirty and cleaned it. while cleaning I never detected any silvering.  I think it must surley have come from the mint and is not a barberous copy as the style is just about perferct for the Rome mint.  It is light for a denarius of Geta but this is because of the differnt densities of copper and silver. Was there a emergency bronze issue I dont know about that used the denarius dies.  Also puzzling is that it seems to be almost pure copper and not really a bronze coin at all (was this to aid in the adhesion of the silver foil to the core?)  If it is a contemporary counterfit has anyone seen one with the silver coating?
         
Anyways - If anyone knows anything more about this coin, I would appreciate the info, as it has been a real puzzler for me.

Thank You,
David S4

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 06:04:33 pm »
I'm sorry to say this, but your coin looks decisively modern to me. Dirt on a coin does not necessarily make it genuine, fakers use that trick quite regularly.

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 06:46:31 pm »
Id absolutely agree with you but I got this with a bunch of other dirties I paid about a $1.5 a piece for from a supplier I never had any trouble with.

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 06:48:49 pm »
He probably never realised it was there. the problem is likely to be further back in the chain.
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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 06:50:32 pm »
It's not unusual to find "dirty" fakes in these so-called uncleaned lots. That doesn't necessarily mean it was your supplier that put it in, maybe it was done by the someone before.

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 10:46:56 pm »
There are similar issues in the fake reports.

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2008, 11:31:45 pm »
Yep, a fake from modern "Lipanoff" dies.

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Re: ID help for Geta contemporary counterfit??
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 08:21:25 am »
Thanks for your help.
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