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Offline Arminius

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Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« on: April 05, 2008, 06:31:09 am »
This one shows a rather "barbarous" style:

Viminacium in Moesia Superior, Gordian III., 243-244 AD. (year 5 of the Colonial Era of Viminacium).,
Æ Sestertius (29-30 mm / 18,00 g),
Obv.: IMP GOR[DI]ANVS PIVS FEL AVG , laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian right, seen from (behind?).
Rev.: P M S C - OL VIM / AN V (in ex.) , Moesia standing facing, head left, extending hands to bull and lion standing at feet on either side.
Pick, AMNG I, 37, 92 ;

same obverse die as SNGuk_0800_0312 see:

http://www.s110120695.websitehome.co.uk/SNG/sng_reply2a.php?verb=SNGuk_0800_0312
 (SNG Vol: VIII 312 Blackburn Museum)

What do you think? A contemporary imitation by a local Balkan mint?

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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 06:44:13 am »
A rather unusual portrait, but else, the coin looks perfectly fine for Viminacium. Certainly official, I'd say.

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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 02:21:43 pm »
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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 03:08:25 pm »
It absolutely looks OK. I have got quite a few Viminaciums and the problem is that the Yugo Maffia at least 'repatinates' them,. I put that between quotes  because I think they just put shoepolish on them :-) . The quality I have

http://www.mimala.nl/micoi/-05th/startpage/starters-prov-cb.html#Vimi

is certainly low. Faces tend to be OK and follow the 'rules' of changing a bit with the reign. All early coins are thick and legend should be in line (later ones tend to get sloppy).  I agree the face of yr coin is a bit hohum but may have been retooled. Sometimes they come out of the earth with a thick -real tough ! - crust on them. 

I tend to agree with the other gents. Dont lose sleep over it :-)

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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 11:42:56 am »
Nope, yours is official.  Its a year 3 Sestertius and these coins were all over the place when it comes to style of the portrait.  Some specimens were absoluetly gorgeous, and others look like yours.  :)  While it does look tooled, I believe you coin has not been and is entirely original, that is simply how this coin was "supposed" to look.

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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 05:21:28 pm »
Except for the small damage at the reverse exergue and some highest spots the coin is as found after resting in the soil for (1700 + x) years.

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Re: Gordian Viminacium Sestertius - a contemporary imitation?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 09:31:31 am »
Just to clarify what I said:  I wasn't saying it was tooled, rather, the style of these coins (at least for my eyes) is that they APPEAR to have been tooled.  I agree that the details of this coin's design are 100% "original".

Honestly, I'm at a bit of a loss as to why Viminacium's coins sometimes look like this in year 3 and parts of early year 4.  We know they had some highly skilled celators in year 2:

http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/28887.php

And in year 4 too:

http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/25002.php

Don't get me wrong, there are some good looking year 3's out there, but the style displayed on your coin is pretty typical.

I guess they they were short handed or something and let an apprentices cut a few dies.

Scott S.

 

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