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Offline Doug H

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Help with this siliqua please
« on: February 01, 2008, 06:29:23 pm »
This siliqua has been much clipped removing most of the legend. To my inexperienced eye it looks like Constantius II, with Victory on the reverse. Can anyone help with a more accurate attribution?

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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 03:24:33 am »
Lyons RIC VIII 210 and 214 certainly fits the bill.

Constantius II AR Silver Reduced Siliqua. 360-361 AD, struck by Julian II. D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, bust right in pearl diadem / dd nn avg' target='_blank'>VICTORIA DD NN AVG, Victory advancing left, both wings visible, holding wreath & palm.

214 is as above, but Victory having only one wing visible.

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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 04:35:17 am »
It looks like a fourree to me.
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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2008, 05:07:03 am »
It does look like a fouree from the picture. That would be very interesting because it then couldn't have been clipped after the coin was made, but must have been a modeled on an existing clipped coin!
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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2008, 06:06:00 am »
I don't think it is a fouree.
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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 06:55:57 am »
Thank-you very much for your replies. As a result of them I have read up a lot more about fourrees. I agree that there are some signs that this might be one (the dark patches on the cheek and other raised areas), but other tell-tale signs are absent. Certainly the fact it is clipped would make it an usual candidate for one. Weren't siliqua fourrees very rare because there would be little profit in them? I can only find 2 or 3 examples of them listed on the various websites that specialise in such things.

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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 07:02:20 am »
I too havent seen mush siliqua fourees in the market, but I doubt that this a fouree. It looks like the silver on the high fields has flaked off and the exposed layer beneath oxidised. It certainly doesnt look coppery. :)

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Re: Help with this siliqua please
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 07:23:46 am »
My one and only silver from this period is a fourree half-siliqua of Honorius, again, it looks clipped. My guess is that these were done after many or most of the circulating coins had already been clipped, and were designed to look similar. If it is a case of an oxidised underlayer of silver, I've never seen anything like it, but I suppose it is possible. What do other people think?
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