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Offline fordicus

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To keep cleaning or stop?
« on: November 08, 2007, 10:57:13 pm »
My natural inclination is to stop, as cleaning the green encrustations will cause more trouble than it is worth and the coin is already attributable. What do you guys think?


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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 11:53:50 pm »
If the metal surface is as it seems, I'd let well enough alone, for the health of what is left.  These coins are so often smoothed to death.  Others may differ, but what if what is underneath is both uglier and more fragile?  Pat L.

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 12:49:36 am »
I'd call it done if I were you.  :)
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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 04:11:19 pm »
Leave it be. From experience I would say if you were able to pull that chunk off of the obverse there would be rough raw metal underneath with no patina at all ( i did that to poor vespasian's cheek on a coin I am working now!)


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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 04:42:03 pm »
I would take it on myself  :) 
The green seems to be similar to some of the green stuff on coins I am currently working on and it has come off of those very nicely, although it is very slow to do.  On your coin the metal seems to be good enough underneath, but it is a risk as to whether there is any patina under the crust.  See pic below for an example of one I worked through.
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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 05:07:42 pm »
if that was my coin,  I probably would clean parts of it a bit more.  Such as the reverse from the center  out to the rim  at 1 to 3 oclock,  and work on the face  to even out the patina,  I'm pretty sure the black should come off with a little patience  and poking

but that is only my opinion

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 09:01:32 am »
My natural inclination is to stop, as cleaning the green encrustations will cause more trouble than it is worth and the coin is already attributable. What do you guys think?




So...what did you decide to do? (just curious)

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 09:33:11 am »
I would stop. 
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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2007, 03:36:51 pm »
My natural inclination is to stop, as cleaning the green encrustations will cause more trouble than it is worth and the coin is already attributable. What do you guys think?




So...what did you decide to do? (just curious)

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I decided to flip the coin for now. I've only been cleaning coins for about 7 months now so if I gain some more confidence I'll pick it up later. I don't currently have a microscope to use so I'm afraid using a scalpel without one might be too much risk. I appreciate everyone's help  :)

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2007, 01:30:27 pm »
I'd leave it; the green doesn't detract from the coin.
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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2007, 02:04:32 pm »
chickens  ;)  ;D

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 02:36:55 am »
Ave!

chickens ;) ;D

Back in the day when I was D&D Dungeon Master, we once had a saying: "No Guts, No Glory..."

From my end, I see no problem at all for further cleaning this coin. The Obv shiny bit at one o'clock shows that the metal beneath the surface grunge is quite sound.

I would take it on myself :)
The green seems to be similar to some of the green stuff on coins I am currently working on and it has come off of those very nicely, although it is very slow to do. On your coin the metal seems to be good enough underneath, but it is a risk as to whether there is any patina under the crust. See pic below for an example of one I worked through.
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I again agree with Mark...but I'm an iconclast, after all.  ::)

Here's what I would do if the coin were mine: (Patina-purists need hide their eyes on this one, trust me.)

A 3 day soak in Gringotts Conservator Mix just to loosen up the gunge. Then use a Dremel SBBB
under running water to gently remove the green/black encrustations. A DDDP #1 will further clean out the details on both sides. Now return to the SBBB for final cleaning. At this point, the coin will be rather stripped of patina, but all the original details should be clear. A short 20 second soak in Jax Brown solution should darken the shiney bits and you'll have a much cleaner presentation for this coin.

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Re: To keep cleaning or stop?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 05:37:40 pm »
Ave!

Back in the day when I was D&D Dungeon Master, we once had a saying: "No Guts, No Glory..."


Aha!  The truth comes out!!!

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I bet we aren't the only two Roman Coin Collector/ex-DMs.

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