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[Emanuele Giulianelli]

What about this coin ID?

18 / 19 mm
4 gr... so not an Obol?

obv:
Laureate head of Apollo left; E (?) behind

rev:
Man-headed bull standing right, being crowned by Nike who flies above; IS in exergue

something similar to SNG AAns 488 v ??!?

[pulvinar]

I'm struck by the similarities between this piece and the supposed Carthaginian AE in the other post.  Both have a stangely offset flan edge (more pronounced in the Carthage piece) and similiar wear and strike appearance.  Very puzzling.

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

dear pulvinar, excuse me... what do you mean?

[pulvinar]

If authentic did these coins come from the same hoard?  I can't comment on this piece's authenticity, but the Carthaginian AE makes me nervous with the flan problem.  There are plenty of well-worn fakes out there of the bust/horse head series.

Pul

[4to2CentBCphilia]

If authentic did these coins come from the same hoard?  I can't comment on this piece's authenticity, but the Carthaginian AE makes me nervous with the flan problem.  There are plenty of well-worn fakes out there of the bust/horse head series.

Pul

Might be the shadowing and highlights from the photographic angle. There are more than a few from this series that appear offset until you look closely.

One example is below.

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[Emanuele Giulianelli]

...so my coins are good?
tell me yes please, Pul scared me...
the seller who gave me these two coins is very serious, a friend of mine who has a coins store in Rome...

[pulvinar]

Can you provide a picture of the edge/thickness of the Carthaginian AE?  While it may seem improbable that someone would go through the trouble to fake these relatively inexpensive AEs, there are many fakes of this type out there. 

Pul

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

i posted a thickness picture on the post about Zeugitania

[Robert_Brenchley]

I've never handled one of these, but that edge looks as though the coin could have been struck on a planchet cast in a two-sided mould; they do have an odd appearance. A mould for these was found in Jerusalem; it consists of two stone slabs, with one face ground flat. Shallow holes were drilled, and linked together, so that the two slabs could be fastened together, and metal poured in. The hollows on each side never matched precisely, hence the odd stepped appearance of the flan.

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

you are talking about the zeugitania coin, i think.
it doesn't seem to be false to me... do you think it's no good?

[Robert_Brenchley]

No, I mean this one. The Zeugitania coin was struck on a planchet cast in a single-sided, tapered mould. That would probably have been a tapered hollow in one slab, and a flat slab to close the mould for casting.

[Emanuele Giulianelli]

in italy they told me it's a good coin, not a false. are you sure??

[Molinari]

I picked up an example of this coin with a very similar problem, and I've doubted its authenticity ever since.  I'd be interested to see if this one turns out to be a forgery.  Here's a picture for comparison.  I know its dark and unclear but I'm working on it!


NJM