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« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2016, 02:04:10 pm »

New variant
i cant find any reverence.

Hadrian Denarius unidentified Eastern Mint 134-38 AD Seven stars crescent

Reference.
RIC - . C. - . BMC - (cf. S. 380, 26-27 and Taf. 70, 4 und 6). Strack - (cf. Taf. XVIII, *50).

Obv: HADRIAИVS AVGVSTYS P. (SIC)
Laureate head right, draped on left shoulder.


Rev: COS III.
Seven stars within crescent.

3.03 gr
19 mm
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« Reply #101 on: April 04, 2016, 05:19:52 am »

same Dies as Lanz 122 in 2002
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« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2016, 02:39:26 pm »

Here an Eastern known in BMCRE but not known Strack with i do not understand.

i found 1 coin in acsearch also same die apparently one pair of die.
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=822249

Reference.
RIC -; Strack-; BMCRE pg. 379, 22, pl. 69, 20 (same dies)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P,
Laureate head right

Rev. COS III
Genius standing left, sacrificing from patera over lighted altar, holding cornucopia in left arm.

2.57 gr
17 mm
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« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2016, 04:19:01 am »

Hadrian Denarius 119-22 AD Minerva standing eastern mint
Reference. very rare
Strack *70; RIC--; C.--; BMCRE--

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate head right

Rev. P M TR P COS III
Minerva standing right holding inverted spear in right hand, resting left hand on shield.

2.94 gr
18 mm

same die as  Reply #24 from martin.
and same die pair as this coin

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« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2016, 12:54:42 pm »

Hadrian Denarius 134-38 AD Roma and Hadrian standing vis-à-vis eastern mint

Reference.
cf. RIC 225;

Obv. HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P
Head of Hadrian, bare, right

Rev.ADVENTVS AVG
Roma, helmeted, in military dress, standing right, holding scepter in left hand and clasping hands with Hadrian on right, who stands left, togate, facing her

2.96 gr
17 mm
6h

my coin has scepter
2e coin from CNG, rome coin has spear
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« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2016, 01:45:25 pm »

Interesting spear-scepter variation, but both coins are mint of Rome, in my opinion.
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« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2016, 01:48:36 pm »

Curtis thank you very much, the portrait and snake like S on both sides made me think eastern.

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« Reply #107 on: August 22, 2016, 08:40:30 am »

Curtis, there is a specimen of Adventus group AD 133, i asked for a picture on the nr 141, from mr. Abdy.
 
No   Den  Obv Head Reverse                                                                                                                     Ref
141. D      e    D1    [ADVENTVS] AVGVSTI; Roma stg r., holding shield and clasping hands with Hadrian, stg l.       Str.-; Man(Had.8)78


my coin above will be 140

No   Den  Obv Head Reverse                                                                                                                     Ref
140. D      a    A+   ADVENTVS AVG; Roma stg r., holding spear (?sceptre) and clasping hands with Hadrian, stg l.  Str.-; Savoca 9, lot 589(A1+)


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« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2016, 01:33:47 pm »

Reference.
Strack-; RIC-;

Obv. IMP CAESAR TRAIANV (sic)HADRIANVS AVG
Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right, seen from back

Rev. COS III
Eagle standing on thunderbolt, head turned left

2,79 gr
19 mm
6h

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« Reply #109 on: September 18, 2016, 02:38:51 pm »

Probably an ancient imitation, in my opinion.

The style seems quite different from that of Hadrian's Eastern denarii. Nor does any Eastern denarius of Hadrian from his Asia Minor series have that obverse legend. It only occurs on his earlier, Syrian issue, usually combined with rev. legends beginning PM TR POTES.
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« Reply #110 on: September 18, 2016, 11:46:24 pm »

Curtis i see what you mean, thank you.


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« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2016, 02:59:55 pm »

Curtis, there is a specimen of Adventus group AD 133, i asked for a picture on the nr 141, from mr. Abdy.
 
No   Den  Obv Head Reverse                                                                                                                     Ref
141. D      e    D1    [ADVENTVS] AVGVSTI; Roma stg r., holding shield and clasping hands with Hadrian, stg l.       Str.-; Man(Had.8)78


my coin above will be 140

No   Den  Obv Head Reverse                                                                                                                     Ref
140. D      a    A+   ADVENTVS AVG; Roma stg r., holding spear (?sceptre) and clasping hands with Hadrian, stg l.  Str.-; Savoca 9, lot 589(A1+)


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Here the picture with belongs to No. 141
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« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2016, 03:48:47 pm »

I'll have to advise Richard Abdy to change that, since in my opinion those two coins have nothing to do with one another!

Yours is mint of Rome, despite the slightly sloppy lettering, as I said above.

The Manchester piece looks to me like either an ancient imitation or a modern counterfeit.

Thanks for getting the picture from Richard, in any case.
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« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2016, 04:08:32 pm »

Thank you and you are welcome, i agree on the manchester coin, looks at least as an imitation like my last coin.

But i agree with Richard that my ADVENTVS is eastern
to be continued i hope.

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« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2016, 01:10:24 pm »

Hadrian Denarius 119-22 AD Minerva standing eastern mint
Reference. very rare
Strack *70; RIC--; C.--; BMCRE--

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate head right

Rev. P M TR P COS III
Minerva standing right holding inverted spear in right hand, resting left hand on shield.

2.94 gr
18 mm

same die as  Reply #24 from martin.
and same die pair as this coin

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2200663

correction not in Strack
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« Reply #115 on: October 20, 2016, 01:39:18 pm »

Hadrian Denarius 134-38 AD Tranquilitas standing Eastern mint
Reference.
Strack --; BMCRE --; cf RIC 367  C. --; NY. 1911.23.137

Obv HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate bust right

Rev TRANQVILLITAS AVG COS III P P
Tranquilitas, draped, standing left, holding vertical sceptre in right hand, left hand at side, resting left arm on column.

3.44 gr
19 mm
6h

a copy of Roma mint RIC 367
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« Reply #116 on: January 04, 2017, 06:47:25 am »

Reference
Strack *43

Obv: HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P.
Laureate head right; draped left shoulder.

Rev: COS III.
Victory seated left, holding wreath and palm.

2.88 gr
20 mm
7h

a copy from Roma mint RIC 345
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« Reply #117 on: February 20, 2017, 05:07:41 am »

a variant on Strack *36 posted at #86

Reference.
Strack cf *36; cf RIC 331; (both legend P P missing)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS sic
Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right, seen from rear

Rev. COS III
Minerva, helmeted, draped, advancing right, leveling javelin and holding shield

2.81 gr
19 mm
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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2017, 06:01:13 pm »

I have here i think an eastern mint Strack *41, this should be the copy Rome mint RIC II 333
i wonder if there is a Rome mint, i could not find it and BMCRE does give only this eastern mint like Strack does.
no Rome mint in BMCRE or Strack, or online

Hadrian Denarius 125-29 AD Roma Victrix Eastern mint
Reference.
Strack *41; BMC 1032 (for Rome mint RIC 333)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate head right

Rev. COS III
Roma Victrix, helmeted, draped, seated left on cuirass and round shield, holding Victory in right hand and cornucopiae in left

2.89 gr
17 mm

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« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2017, 08:09:34 pm »

I find that rev. type only on sestertii of Hadrian, beginning before 128 with obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS, and lasting after, with obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P.

But we expect Eastern denarii to copy their rev. types from Roman denarii, not Roman bronze coins! This might suggest that the mint of Rome did strike this type on denarii as well as sestertii, and those denarii were copied by the Eastern mint, but they were so rare that they hardly ever turn up today, and they have not yet found their way into the standard catalogues.
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« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2017, 11:16:08 am »

Reference.
Strack *17; (for Roma mint RIC 195)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS
Laureate bust right, with slight drapery

Rev. COS III (in ex)
Galley right with a hortator at stearn

3.12 gr
19 mm
12h

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« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2017, 11:20:46 am »

Reference.
Helios 8, lot 436; RIC -; BMC -; RSC -. (for rome mint RIC II 182)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS
Laureate bust right, with slight drapery.

Rev. COS III
Nemesis-Victory standing right, crowning herself and holding long palm in other hand.

3.12 gr
18 mm
6h
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« Reply #122 on: October 25, 2017, 12:33:29 pm »

Hadrian Denarius  134-38 AD Galley right Eastern Mint

Reference
Strack *55 (same die pair);Cohen 445.

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate head of Hadrian to right.

Rev. COS III
Galley with five oarsmen to right; at stern, arched cabin under a curved aplustre.

3.35 gr
19 mm
6h

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« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2017, 06:05:10 am »

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« Reply #124 on: October 27, 2017, 03:40:41 am »

Dear cf,

Here's a interesting eastern mint on Rome it would be Fortuna, here its Genius with rudder and cornucopiae.
Strack *30 is same reverse with Draped Fortuna.

Hadrian Denarius 134-38 AD Genius standing Eastern mint

Reference.
Strack *32 (same die pair)

Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
Laureate head right

Rev. COS III
Genius standing front, head to left, holding rudder with her right hand and cornucopiae with her left

3.51 gr
18 mm
7h
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