Odd Hungarian

[irish]

Another hungarian silver, very small, appears to have rudiments of shield design on one side and/or coat of arms, not sure about orientation

other side suggestive of floral type device to my eyes, but really cannot make much sense of it....very very thin fabric, coin is minute...thanks in advance....b.

[Cibalia]

Is it this?
http://calverley.info/finds/0136.htm

[irish]

 for reply, i do not think that is it though...i have been over that site several times, its well done...

on this coin, the obverse device on the lower left, (between 6 and 9 oclock as pictured) appears to be the same type of cross device that is on the shields of many of the denars, sometimes int the upper right hand corner

it looks like a patriarchal cross

the reverse has that tree/animal look, too bad the thing is worn...thanks again

b

[Cibalia]

Ah! I see it now. It's an obol of Bela IV, Huszar 336, like this one:

[irish]

yes it is!  thank you