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« on: June 10, 2007, 01:23:02 pm »

Oh yes, time is moving fast these days. And new things are constantly being invented. We've all seen how the internet changed coin collecting (or you wouldn't be here reading this, duh! Grin), but I'm going to show you that even new Roman emperors are being invented all the time. Browsing that "data superhighway", you will find rulers that you never heard about in your history lessons, or even in RIC. I'd like to re-create an older, now deleted thread and invite you to add all these names you found, not exclusively but often in a well-known www location. These include:

Aerelian
Antunios Bius
Claudius Albinius
Claudius Croticus
Conctance (in French, Constance would be correct for Constantius)
Consnotius
Constantinius
Constantius I Chlorox
Constentius
Demintian
Diakliatian
Dioctolianus
Diogletian
Diomitian
Dominicianus
Galianus
Giordanius Pius
Hardian (didn't find his co-emperor Laurelius yet)
Henrietta Otracilla
Idoxia
Jestine
Lentulus Sprinter
Losius verous
Lulianus Apostata
Luscinius
Macrionos
Manlius Scintilla
Marcus Aurelianus
Maximinianus (also Maximilianus)
Orbania
Piscinius Niger
Probebus
Pucas (for Phokas)
Rapienus (Pupienus?)
Septiminus Severus
Septimus Servus
Severena
Severnius (for Severina!)
Severus the IV
Theodius I
Trhirnus Decius
Trojanus
Vapalatuch

and guest starring:

Pontius Pilot!! Grin

Eagerly waiting for your contributions,

Rupert
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 02:15:44 pm »

After a brief browse all I could find was a 'CONSTENTIUS'. Another son of Constantine?? They should have castrated the man!
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 02:28:29 pm »

Diomitian!
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 02:43:06 pm »

Claudius Albinius
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2007, 07:59:16 pm »

Demintian.   I swear I saw it last week! 
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 08:17:58 pm »

I found Luscinius

Rupert has found Maximinianus, Giordanius Pius, Constantinius and Antunios Bius
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 11:16:56 am »

Demintian.   I swear I saw it last week! 

Somebody mixed up the emperor's name here with his latest diagnosis!

I'll add the newly-found names to the first post of the thread, like Joe does with the Known Fake Sellers. It will give a better overview, in case this thread gets longer.

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 11:32:20 am »

We also have to take into account that many sellers are not first lanuguage english speakers, and therefore not neccesarily thick! For instance Lucius Verus in Italian is Lucio Vero, while the Maltese equivalent is Lucju Veru,  sounds very strange to us!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 12:54:57 pm »

Sure. Of course Lucio Vero or Giulio Cesare is perfectly correct in Italian, such as Mark Aurel is in German (though I prefer to call him Marcus Aurelius, it sounds three or four degrees nobler). So these guys won't make it on this <very> distinguished list!

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 02:59:43 pm »

It would be interesting to note all the variations of the emperors' names in the different languages.  For example in Bulgarian, Marcus Aurelius is Mark Avrelii ("v" like in victor, not latin "u"), Antoninus Pius is Antonin Pii (like in pee), Commodus is Comod, Claudius is Clavdii, Nero is Neron and Titus is just TitSmiley  There is a pattern of doing away with the "ius" at the end, changing the "u" to a "v" etc.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 03:25:10 pm »

I noticed this when reading about the deceased Pope, Johannes Paul II. in German, also known as Jan Pawel (Polish), Juan Pablo (Spanish), Gianpaolo (Italian), Joao Paulo (Portuguese), John Paul (English, without George and Ringo here), Jean Paul in French, and so on...

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2007, 04:40:50 pm »

In regard to emperors' names in foreign languages, what about that distant relative of many of us, and the founder of a nation, Macsen Wledig?  Salutations, George Spradling
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2007, 09:37:30 pm »

As a major collector of Luscinius, I was sad to learn his wife Luscitainia was sunk by a German Uboat in WWI.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 11:18:49 am »

As a major collector of Luscinius, I was sad to learn his wife Luscitainia was sunk by a German Uboat in WWI.
Grin Good one!

Found two smashers from a seller of surprisingly good coins.

SEVERENA  and......

CONCTANCE.

Of course!
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 07:38:51 pm »

I found another one, Marcellinus. I have no clue what emperor they are even thinking of.
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 08:56:43 am »

hi,,

The first "Marcellinus" I can find was a pope in pre-Christian times, that is under Diocletian.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paus_Marcellinus

"Macrianus" or "Macrinus" come close..  Grin

by the way....

TFRICVS
FETPICS
VTRICVS
SVCITET
TRICS

... is all Tetricus on quite a lot of Tetricus' coins found in Northern Europe !

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 03:46:20 pm »

Gentlemen: Meet Marcellinus! Nothing wrong with this one, except of course he wasn't emperor but the moneyer of this Republican denarius (picture from Coinarchives).

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2007, 04:29:40 pm »

As a major collector of Luscinius, I was sad to learn his wife Luscitainia was sunk by a German Uboat in WWI.

OMG!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 10:17:10 am »

I found "Diakliatian" today. I still have to find the language in which this spelling is correct. Grin

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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 11:56:15 am »

I found "Diakliatian" today. I still have to find the language in which this spelling is correct. Grin

Rupert

I'm afraid it must be some German-Austrian dialect  Undecided according to Google that is

By the way any idea who is the father of Canstantine ? hint: he was frequently on harseback  Grin

And euhm there is a coin of Antionus in one of the member's collections at forumancient.. tongue laugh

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=477&page=8&sort=td

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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2007, 05:49:16 pm »

I confess, today I raised a new emperor to the purple, Cladius II.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2007, 03:03:24 pm »

I have found another one which certainly qualifies for our list: Maximinius Daza. It was on another coin forum as a link to an ebay sellers store, where is it was correctly spelled! Phew! Grin
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2007, 03:14:39 pm »

Quote from: Scipio Helveticus on June 15, 2007, 03:03:24 pm
I have found another one which certainly qualifies for our list: Maximinius Daza. It was on another coin forum as a link to an ebay sellers store, where is it was correctly spelled! Phew! Grin

Well, Maximianus and Maximinus are certainly my spelling bugbears these days  -- I am forever getting the wrong number of M's, I's and N's in the wrong places -- or getting unintended extra ones -- despite my best intentions and concentrated efforts. I don't seem to recall ever having this problem 67 years ago! Roll Eyes

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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2007, 03:58:31 pm »


Well, Maximianus and Maximinus are certainly my spelling bugbears these days 
James

Yeah, that happens to me too but I'm 24! I just split them into little memonics: Maxi-minus and Maxi-mi-an-us. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2007, 03:59:01 pm »

It is easy enough to make spelling errors, though.

Quote from: Scipio Helveticus on June 15, 2007, 02:47:11 pm
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His name is Reid  Wink
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